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2) what happened to all your other dudes, crusader, highwayman, vestal, plague doctor
3) git gud
Take these heroes and run them into the ground. Use their hard-earned bounty to repair the Hamlet and restore your family name. Then, when they are broken and mad, discard the useless flesh and bone for brand new and eager recruits.
Or git gud.
dude i was up to the 3 lass boss's in early acess till that game file got wiped.
and no, this team im forced upon is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible, just did 2nd mission and 2 of the stupid pricks on deaths door.
use to be the occultist was the biggest piece of ♥♥♥♥ class for me, now that title goes to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ piece of ♥♥♥♥ Arablest. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded class, good game who ever invented this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ class, again, this game was better with LESS classes. the man at arms is ok, the hound master utter ♥♥♥♥.
there are so many hearts in your quote you must really love the game.
did you buy skills to make party work together? stack on with the food and stuff for recovery? prolly not. plus what happened to first four heroes.
like hey okay "git gud" is kinda a whatever response but for real you had the tools, if you didn't use them, that's on you.
The fun of this game is losing your parties sometimes anyway, risking quite an investment in the face of uncertainty is a huge part of the experience. I lost my best 4 heroes who had 8 of my top trinkets to a champion boss Hag fight, and overall I gotta say it was still fun.
It's just a game, chill out
Sorry to say, but if you can't make that party work for at least a ruins run you do not understand the fight mechanics. You should maybe read what is on the store page for an early access game before complaing the end product is different.
As for your class claims - Arbalest is very good in any mark party and in the setup you had could have been an emergency healer for you.
- Houndmaster is possibly my favourite hero, again benefits from marks.
Oh wait with the Graverobber that makes 3 heros who can play off of mark, I wonder what you could do to make that team work... lol
In the spirit of the board though tbh all I should say is git gud.
2nd mission, there lvl 0, cant upgrade em, look, i was early on EA with this, i know how to play and how the game works for the good most part, however after attempting to re-play this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game with these 4 new classes, with the exception of man of arms, this has made the roaster a even bigger pain in the ass then before, have to shuffle threw twice the amount of ♥♥♥♥ now for same level of enjoy this game once gave me. ~_~
Look yeah if you were in on EA or not fact is you ain't doin it now. I'm not gonna say loads of people are gettin it done, but yeah it is a reality you know? You wanna watch some streamers, you want to have someone walk you through via remote or whatever, sure, but it's not to the level that you ought to be getting messed up.
EVEN if you do get messed up, mind, the game is pretty forgiving. There's no game fail state first time round, so you just grab more heroes and continue on. Unless they haven't fixed Abomination / religious / only four heroes available yet. But generally.
As to being level zero oh yeahhh guild hall doesn't work until a few missions in does it. But still first mission you ought to have been able to crush, second mission your heroes don't become unusable. At *worst* they should have some stress on. But you could have in most cases taken care of that with Jester, unless Jester had no stress heal, but then you had houndmaster, but maybe you didn't have stress heal there, but then just what DID you have? you must have had something. then if you go in with full food and a lot of torches like 8 or whatever it really should not be that horrible to beat.
So you did the second mission and two on death's door? didn't even die? that's still a win. Might want to adjust your expectations.
Anyways if you really don't like it, just install a mod or edit your files and make everything easy. Mind, I'm not saying you can't handle the game. But if you're getting frustrated over it and you think there's problems, then really what's it going to matter if I say I don't have a problem, if I say others don't have a problem, fact is if you think it's messed up, you think it's messed up, and that's enough isn't it? Sure it is.
git gud at installing mod
again no issue with failing or ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up on my own accord that was never my point of this post, what im trying to get at is, with + 4 new classes and 3 of em been utterly undesirible (for me any ways) it just mean's twice the time in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around, wasting cash, gear, exp on trash i will simply dissmiss once im out again (like i did to those 4 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just now)
man I'd love to see a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bounty hunter right about now ~_~ seen everything but ~_~ and that was 1 of my main four in EA ~_~
Crusader. Highwayman, Vestle, and Bounty hunter is generally how I roll.
Plague doctor is a ok replacement bounty hunter, as is the man at arms for the crusader.
but yeh don't care what any one says, imho Arablest, Graverobber, Occultist, and hound master ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ suck, I would go as far as to far so does the abonimation but I view that class as more of a "Gimick" then a viable option.
I play and enjoy every class. The game is balanced well enough such that they're all worth taking depending on the situation.
The occultist has the best heal after the vestal and is great for the cove. If I don't have a vestal with me, I probably have an occultist. It's not as reliable, but enough to be the primary source of healing for a party, and it feels great when you get a big heal off. Artillery is always nice. Marking is potentially great for some synergy, like with the bounty hunter.
The arbalest probably has the third best heal. It's also a buff for increased healing, so having an arbalest/vestal or arbalest/occultist as your back two works great. He does a ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage too, so I can factor that in as part of his appeal. Suppressing fire also works wonders at the beginning of a potentially tough battle. And he can also mark enemies.
The houndmaster is extremely versatile and makes the flesh boss a total joke. He has a party stress heal, a large self-heal, a melee stun, does crazy damage with the dog treats, and inflicts bleed on the entire enemy party at once. He works fantastic in position 2, 3 and 4, and is one of my favorite classes.
Welp, this pretty much says it all right here. I give your grasp of the game mechanics a 5/7.
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Looks pretty playable to me.
I'm not a huge fan of the abomination, but I think you are dramatically limiting yourself with your favorite team. Do you refuse to play with corpses by any chance, because the heros you think suck are some of the best at dealing with a game that isn't just buzsawing through the enemy frontline...Also your preferences feel rahter like earlier EA ones - things have changed.
The highwayman is really not what he was after the changes with corspes (pointblank shot actually requires planning to use well) and AOE reduction - he's not bad, but he's pretty much limited to damage and not great at that. Yeah grapeshot and pistol can clean up wounded enemies and he can at least hit the back rank, but he's not really a specialized ranged attacker - like the arabalest...
I know many love the crusader, but I can't stand the way he just stands there letting himself and everyone else get hacked at before his low low speed finally encourages him to act. The vestal has a similar issue.
My point isn't to talk smack about what classes you like Falcon, but to point out that all the heroes have thier weaknesses - and thier strengths. The team you describe above as terrible has some good heroes in it. Houndmaster does decent single target damage from ranks 2,3,4 (I like him best in rank 2 where he can drop a stun in as well) and he has self healing. In longer fights the HM's bleeds start to matter, and harry is very useful for finishing off those annoying enemies with a couple of HP left.
The GR, while she was once far less of a damage dealer then the HWM is absolutely brutal now, her damage is up, and she crits constantly. Combined with her scouting and trap removal skills these crits mean GRs rarely have any stress. She still has an effective lunge shadowfade dodge tanking build and is a creditable threat to every enemy rank.
Arablest is another high crit hero hero that devestates the enemy rear ranks. The Occultist, well he's great - the best way to deal with high damage enemies is kill them quick, but no team is regularlly taking down a giant or the Swine King in one round... Debuff will make those fellows hit like babies. Occultist also has a great heal - had a crit heal on Veteran level last night (with trinkets) of something like 40 Pts.
Expand your horizons. Play with what the game gives you instead of trying to force everything into a single set of tactics. I suspect you'll find things less grindy if you do. Admittedly The arablest, leper and GR are heroes who can be really annoying with initial of the carriage skill sets, but one short dungeon shouldn't kill them even with dumb skill mixes.