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Optimate May 26, 2016 @ 7:08am
Vestal stopped healing
My first go at the game and I've run into something that isn't explained. Went on a training run with some apprentice level types who'd been on quests before so I was aiming to level some of them up. Included was a vestal who'd been out a couple of times before but this time I had to abandon as when it came to combat time it turned out the target/party heal skills she'd used on previous quests were no longer usable, she only had mace bash and hand of light available and since she was at the back couldn't use either of those anyway. Looking at quirks/diseases/trinkets I couldn't see anything to explain why the healing skills had done a runner. What gives?
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aardvarkpepper May 26, 2016 @ 7:15am 
you can unequip skills. if you unequipped your vestal's healing skills, then that would do it.

other possibility would have been if vestal was in front couple ranks so couldn't use rank-dependent healing skills but you mentioned that wasn't the case.

other possibility if vestal is afflicted or target is afflicted; they can refuse to do certain actions or refuse healing, but as you mention other skills apparently active maybe that's not it either.

other possibility you literally did everything right but your game's corrupted, and your best bet is to make a backup manually, verify files, see if that helps, if not, dismiss vestal and see if new vestal can heal properly, if not, welp, then you're stuck. But if it is a corrupted save file, it's a new one on me, never heard of something this specific before. Ah well always a first time innit.
Madmax May 26, 2016 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by aardvarkpepper:
other possibility would have been if vestal was in front couple ranks so couldn't use rank-dependent healing skills but you mentioned that wasn't the case.

This sounds like the most likely explanation. Optimate, for future reference: all skills have a set of four dots that indicate from which position the skill can be used.* The dots highlighted in yellow indicate the positions from which a skill is usable. In the Vestal's example, she can't use her single-target heal unless she's in the two back ranks, and she can't use her party-wide heal if she's in the frontmost position.

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*Offensive skills have a second set of red dots which indicate which are valid targets for the skill.
Optimate May 26, 2016 @ 8:48am 
Originally posted by aardvarkpepper:
you can unequip skills. if you unequipped your vestal's healing skills, then that would do it.

other possibility would have been if vestal was in front couple ranks so couldn't use rank-dependent healing skills but you mentioned that wasn't the case.

other possibility if vestal is afflicted or target is afflicted; they can refuse to do certain actions or refuse healing, but as you mention other skills apparently active maybe that's not it either.

other possibility you literally did everything right but your game's corrupted, and your best bet is to make a backup manually, verify files, see if that helps, if not, dismiss vestal and see if new vestal can heal properly, if not, welp, then you're stuck. But if it is a corrupted save file, it's a new one on me, never heard of something this specific before. Ah well always a first time innit.

Looks like it may be the latter. Back at the hamlet I looked at her details and all (the only) four skills she has are active. I can't find any way to unequip anything but as all my heroes have just the four skills available at present the option to change the active skills presumably doesn't apply. Sent her on another quest just to be sure and as before she only had 2 skills available wherever she's positioned in the group. If there's an affliction (she's got a few) that stops her healing the tool tip doesn't tell you that and it would cost me a shedload of gold I don't have to cure her so I guess I just fire her sorry ass.
Valentines Tea May 26, 2016 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Optimate:
Originally posted by aardvarkpepper:
you can unequip skills. if you unequipped your vestal's healing skills, then that would do it.

other possibility would have been if vestal was in front couple ranks so couldn't use rank-dependent healing skills but you mentioned that wasn't the case.

other possibility if vestal is afflicted or target is afflicted; they can refuse to do certain actions or refuse healing, but as you mention other skills apparently active maybe that's not it either.

other possibility you literally did everything right but your game's corrupted, and your best bet is to make a backup manually, verify files, see if that helps, if not, dismiss vestal and see if new vestal can heal properly, if not, welp, then you're stuck. But if it is a corrupted save file, it's a new one on me, never heard of something this specific before. Ah well always a first time innit.

Looks like it may be the latter. Back at the hamlet I looked at her details and all (the only) four skills she has are active. I can't find any way to unequip anything but as all my heroes have just the four skills available at present the option to change the active skills presumably doesn't apply. Sent her on another quest just to be sure and as before she only had 2 skills available wherever she's positioned in the group. If there's an affliction (she's got a few) that stops her healing the tool tip doesn't tell you that and it would cost me a shedload of gold I don't have to cure her so I guess I just fire her sorry ass.

It would probably help if you had some screenshots of both her stat page (so we can see what afflictions she has and her skills) and an instance of her not healing. Then, you could post in the Bug Report section where the developers will see it.
Optimate May 26, 2016 @ 12:28pm 
Well I've taken some screenshots, can't seem to post them here but I uploaded them to my profile page so you can take a look there. Is the bug report section you mention on some developer forum rather than Steam?
Le Ver Coquin May 26, 2016 @ 12:43pm 
It appears the two healing skills aren't equipped. They don't have the yellow border in your screenshots. Just click on them to re-equip them.
Valentines Tea May 26, 2016 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by Optimate:
Well I've taken some screenshots, can't seem to post them here but I uploaded them to my profile page so you can take a look there. Is the bug report section you mention on some developer forum rather than Steam?

No. It's on Steam. redhookjohn is very active in the community here. Also both healing skills don't have a yellow border in your screenshot, so it does mean they're unequipped!
Last edited by Valentines Tea; May 26, 2016 @ 1:28pm
Optimate May 26, 2016 @ 1:51pm 
Doh! Don't know how I managed to unequip them but it's obvious now you point it out. I was expecting unused skills to be greyed out but at least my vestal will live to die another day. Which will be handy as most of my veterans got themselves killed in the interim...
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