Just like that, Dismas is dead.

[CtenosaurOaxacana]

Dismas is absolutely wrecking ♥♥♥♥ and being cool and great. Had good hp left.
Suddenly,
Crit hit to 0 hp followed up by a bleed dot, and then one final attack after that.

DIsmas is dead.
No more 'tutorial jackasses survive the whole game' achieve for me.

I'm pretty disappointed, and not just because Dismas was doing so well before getting ♥♥♥♥♥ by RNG.

But mostly because I'm pretty sure this is the only achieve that can be lost forever.
Someone pointed out a rare resurrection event at town graveyard, but it picks 3 dead heroes to choose from at random... so even if I never get one of them killed again, it will be a 50% chance (I have 6 dead heroes now), presuming I ever get the chance for this event.

Would it have counted still if I let those two ♥♥♥♥ers just sit around in town wasting 2 slots of my roster the entire game?
Can someone please confirm this? Do they have to actually go into final dungeon, or just live in town until then?

If it would count, then seems kind of a pointless achieve anyway then: incredibly easy, if you just don't use them.
Which makes these tutorial jackasses worthless in-game.

P.S.: I'm only on week 18 so far. That's still pretty early game, right?
Not sure if it's worth restarting just for these two ♥♥♥♥ers, though.

[Milk]

There's a town event that lets you resurrect people. Idk if the achievement will count if you ressurect Dismas though.

[CtenosaurOaxacana]

Originally posted by Angry Floof:

There's a town event that lets you resurrect people. Idk if the achievement will count if you ressurect Dismas though.

I checked another thread and someone confirmed it would count for the achieve.
The problem is that it picks 3 dead heroes at random to choose from, so unless I manage to lose VERY few or NO more at all, I might not even get to choose Dismas.

[Mike]

seeing as there's cheevos for getting to week 104, id say its still pretty early. but still, no achievement is worth throwing the whole game for.

[CtenosaurOaxacana]

Originally posted by Mike:

seeing as there's cheevos for getting to week 104, id say its still pretty early. but still, no achievement is worth throwing the whole game for.

I suppose I could always try again in NG +.
but only if the stupid trick of letting them rot in town and take up roster space works.

This is the first time the game has shown me how suddenly a hero can go from 'just fine' to 'dead', and I'm pissed they used one of the achieve heroes as an example.

Lesson learned, sure, great, but achieve hunting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ now without much warning.

♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥.

[Sunwave]

You can just let them be lvl 1 forever, and then take them into the final dungeon like that. At least, others said they used those tactics. Haven't tried it myself yet (and don't have to since they're both lvl 6 already).

Well, if it makes you feel better, I am doing NG+. Dismas died my first time around as well. Reynauld survived DD second dungeon, though.

[dirt]

Originally posted by Vulpes Velox:

Lesson learned, sure, great, but achieve hunting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ now without much warning.

♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥.

Rofl, please go back to dating sims.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

If you are losing characters so easily on Week 18, you will likely run into serious issues in harder Dungeons.

[CtenosaurOaxacana]

Originally posted by Sunwave:

You can just let them be lvl 1 forever, and then take them into the final dungeon like that. At least, others said they used those tactics. Haven't tried it myself yet (and don't have to since they're both lvl 6 already).

So they do have to actually go into the Darkest Dungeon and complete a quest?

If so, then this early loss isn't so bad after all, cause I'm sure there's the risk of losing them in there.
I was just concerned whether I passed up the simple choice of keeping them in town even while finishing the final dungeons, but if that doesn't count...

Originally posted by MAIS:

Rofl, please go back to dating sims. :csgogun::etgpilot:

Rofl, please get a life beyond browsing users' games to come up with clever 'insults'.

I've played and beaten many difficult games too, thank you.
One rant doesn't change the fact that I will still beat Darkest Dungeon with all default settings, I don't enjoy easy mode on challenging games.

Originally posted by mad_myke:

If you are losing characters so easily on Week 18, you will likely run into serious issues in harder Dungeons.

Actually, I'd have only lost 3 by now instead of 6, but I decided I may as well go for 'lol they all died' achieve.

I am definitely wanting to focus on the 'green' dungeons for awhile though until I get better.

[dirt]

Originally posted by Vulpes Velox:

Rofl, please get a life beyond browsing users' games to come up with clever 'insults'.

I've played and beaten many difficult games too, thank you.
One rant doesn't change the fact I will still beat Darkest Dungeon with all default settings.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

Originally posted by Vulpes Velox:

Originally posted by MAIS:

Rofl, please go back to dating sims. :csgogun::etgpilot:

Rofl, please get a life beyond browsing users' games to come up with clever 'insults'.

I've played and beaten many difficult games too, thank you.
One rant doesn't change the fact I will still beat Darkest Dungeon with all default settings.

Originally posted by mad_myke:

If you are losing characters so easily on Week 18, you will likely run into serious issues in harder Dungeons.

Actually, I'd have only lost 3 by now, but I decided I may as well go for 'lol they all died' achieve.

I am definitely wanting to focus on the 'green' dungeons for awhile though until I get better.

I am not trying to sound elitist, but the difficulty in the dungeons does jump significantly as you enter veteran and champion dungeons. Outside of Shambler and Collector encounters, apprentice dungeons should be clean sweeps. I would advise you to pay close attention to situational quirks (Ruins Phobe, Fear of Unholy, etc.) and avoid stacking too many trinkets that give you -SPD and -DODGE. Having monsters that always go first and hardly ever miss can be a serious problem, even on apperentice dungeons.

[Scribbled]

Hoe do you guys equip your highwaymen?The trinket selection seems to guide you between either melee or ranged. But I find say Duelists advance so useful that I rarely forcus on ranged.

[Milk]

Originally posted by Scribbled:

Hoe do you guys equip your highwaymen?The trinket selection seems to guide you between either melee or ranged. But I find say Duelists advance so useful that I rarely forcus on ranged.

I actually use the sheaths.

[CtenosaurOaxacana]

Originally posted by mad_myke:

I am not trying to sound elitist, but the difficulty in the dungeons does jump significantly as you enter veteran and champion dungeons. Outside of Shambler and Collector encounters, apprentice dungeons should be clean sweeps. I would advise you to pay close attention to situational quirks (Ruins Phobe, Fear of Unholy, etc.) and avoid stacking too many trinkets that give you -SPD and -DODGE. Having monsters that always go first and hardly ever miss can be a serious problem, even on apperentice dungeons.

Already know about some of your tips, but thanks anyway.

I agree with you that apprentice dungeons are not difficult if you are careful. I was not completely careful with dismas (im pretty sure he wasnt at 100% hp), but it still caught me offguard how quickly he was suddenly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dead. I just wish he wasn't the first one in this game to suffer extremely bad combo of RNG events. Every other hero death was me being lazy, reckless, or the aforementioned 'might as well let them all die for that one achieve'.

Funny enough, I beat an apprentice-lvl shambler with my whole party STARTING at 25% hp and no healers (tho they had lots of bandages and anti-venom and they had lots of bleed dot to give), and no-one died. that made me wonder if game was TOO EASY. Made another topic about that encounter the other day.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

Originally posted by Vulpes Velox:

Originally posted by mad_myke:

I am not trying to sound elitist, but the difficulty in the dungeons does jump significantly as you enter veteran and champion dungeons. Outside of Shambler and Collector encounters, apprentice dungeons should be clean sweeps. I would advise you to pay close attention to situational quirks (Ruins Phobe, Fear of Unholy, etc.) and avoid stacking too many trinkets that give you -SPD and -DODGE. Having monsters that always go first and hardly ever miss can be a serious problem, even on apperentice dungeons.

Already know about some of your tips, but thanks anyway.

I agree with you that apprentice dungeons are not difficult if you are careful. I was not completely careful with dismas (im pretty sure he wasnt at 100% hp), but it still caught me offguard how quickly he was suddenly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dead. I just wish he wasn't the first one in this game to suffer extremely bad combo of RNG events. Every other hero death was me being lazy, reckless, or the aforementioned 'might as well let them all die for that one achieve'.

Funny enough, I beat an apprentice-lvl shambler with my whole party at 25% hp and no healers (tho they had lots of bandages and anti-venom and they had lots of bleed dot to give), and no-one died. that made me wonder if game was TOO EASY. Made another topic about that encounter the other day.

Karmic repercussions perhaps?

[CtenosaurOaxacana]

Originally posted by mad_myke:

Karmic repercussions perhaps?

Too unrelated situations, I think. Besides happening in same game, that is.