WTF with the Brigand Vvulf??

[kyroshill]

I watched likie 900 videos where everyone showed how easy it was to do this run.... as I was feeling entirely unprepared.

So I put together everything I had, considering that I haven't run a SINGLE Champion level dungeon yet.

I barely survived the first fight. Lost my Hellion in the 2nd fight. Lost my Vestal in the first room, was about to lose the other 2, so I had to dump.

I /qq so I don't even know.... does the hamlet get shredded too?

This is a BS event..... I can avoid most fights I am not ready for. If I pick a fight that I shouldn't, that's on me.

But being forced into this when I know damned well I'm not ready is bogus.

[Sir Francis]

It triggers way too early, you should at least have 50% of the champion bosses down or at least 8 people on lvl 6 as a requirement. But you can change that in the right file. darkest dungeon/campain/town_events.
scroll all the way down, there its the second, change the values, done.

[kyroshill]

Originally posted by Sir Francis:

It triggers way too early, you should at least have 50% of the champion bosses down or at least 8 people on lvl 6 as a requirement. But you can change that in the right file. darkest dungeon/campain/town_events.
scroll all the way down, there its the second, change the values, done.

Alright.... I think I have it changed properly. Thanks a ton! Glad I'm not ONLY a crappy player, but that this is actually a thing as well.

[Enhancement Talent]

It triggers so early that I had to turn off town events. I haven't had the opportunity to fight him again yet, but presumably I need to for the "kill all bosses" achievement because literally every other boss is dead at this point, even the final one. Having level 5 heroes doesn't mean jack, they're probably all equipped with level 3 or 4 gear at best by the time the internal clock starts ticking. It needs to trigger way later when you have a party that can actually deal with the challenges of that event.

[Maester Silvio]

If you're interested, my mod collection contains a town event rebalancing that addresses this issue.

[Rubedo the Cleric]

You know there's a problem when you have to hack the file and cheat to avoid being obliterated by poor development choices. This showed up pre week 50 and I only had 4 level 5's total. completely impossible to deal with. And what the faq is up with brigands dealing stress damage bleeds, marking you and critting 80% of the time with no counterplay. you play learning who the stress dealers are, you strategize accordingly.. but now wolves, and brigands and random bull is dealing so much stress damage all 4 of my people were afflicted by the thir or fourth fight and wasnt even able to make it to the boss.. and that was with all of them running -20 stress books or having steady traits...

[Sunwave]

I think you're just meant to ignore it if you can't win it. It will destroy two town upgrades, which you can earn back in one or two weeks unless it's the top tier (in which case you should be having good heroes to fight him, too).

[Enhancement Talent]

Issue is that punishes the player for no reason. That transistioning phase is already one of the hardest parts of the game, and that just makes it even worse. The implementation of the event is probably the absolute worst thing in the game currently because it punishes the player and they cannot do anything about it by the time it typically shows up.

[nightshift]

The event itself is awesome. Although it does start waaay too early. Whenever you have 3 or 4 characters at level 5, it can potentially happen and ruin your game. And there better be a MAA amond those 3, otherwise you're pretty much F-ed.,, It basically made the whole purpose of the first part of the game to raise a MAA to level 5 ASAP, because if it hits and all you got is a Jester, Antiquarian, Plague Doctor, better restart man... And while you level your Reynauld and Dismas each week PRAY that there will be an MAA arriving with the stagecoach or start dumping your characters before they hit veteran level.

Also: MAX the numbers of Wulf attacks per game. Third time we got'im and excuted him on the town square in front of everyone. After we successfully defend the Hamlet next town event should be the public execution of Vvulf. And that's it. You get the Vvulf head in a bag with cool benefits, also Dismas be like: "so we meet again..." and they start teasing each other "what are you doing with these folks, are you playing the good guy now-eh? You know that'll never work!" But it totally does and Dismas's like "you have something that belongs to me" and then you can get the cool trinket of Vvulf of course in a much better version. OR if Dismas is a traitor and it was he who let the Brigands in and if he's still living and even among the fighters against Vvulf, he joins them Siren-style in the final battle and you have to cut him down too (thus getting the Dismas head).

Or whatever. Just prolong his approach please, let us raise at least 8 people to level 5 and then... maybe then.

[Hedning]

I agree the event triggers way too early. Playing normally you get 4 level 5 heroes way before you have any of the level 5 blacksmith upgrades. There is no way to beat it with level 4 gear and somewhat random heroes.

I beat it barely but without deaths in NG+ with a level 4 and three level 5 heroes with level 5 weapons and level 4 armour. That I think is about fair so the event should trigger once you have a level 5 blacksmith upgrade rather than just level 5 heroes.

[KillaBeeZ]

I agree that the first time it comes up is too early but whatever I just recruited 4 douchbags and let them die... the second time the wolves were at my door i had enough 5-6 lvl heroes to try it and completed it the first try and everyt try after that, no biggie!

[zverozvero]

Originally posted by Hedning:

That I think is about fair so the event should trigger once you have a level 5 blacksmith upgrade rather than just level 5 heroes.

Brigand king triggering to rob rich estate also makes more sence.
Okz would come just to stomp tough 'umies though...

[LANKO]

It sucks, but on my first complete playthrough, I just avoided having 4x LVL5's until I had enough money/upgrades/trinkets ready to go.

[Sunwave]

Originally posted by KillaBeeZ:

I agree that the first time it comes up is too early but whatever I just recruited 4 douchbags and let them die... the second time the wolves were at my door i had enough 5-6 lvl heroes to try it and completed it the first try and everyt try after that, no biggie!

I only ever fought him once, though. I won, since I was JUST about to use that party to do the first darkest dungeon quest (which was quite nice since they had anti-bleed, which was a happy coincidence). So I don't know what happens if you fail, but I imagine you would still lose some building upgrades.

So what's the point of sending some noobs to die, if you can just do another quest altogether?

[Ramond]

Originally posted by SunWave:

So I don't know what happens if you fail, but I imagine you would still lose some building upgrades.

So what's the point of sending some noobs to die, if you can just do another quest altogether?

In fact redhook changed that shortly after they introduced Town Events. Originally, two upgrades were still destroyed, but thanks to a later patch this doesn't happen anymore when failing or retreating the mission.

[Solo Death]

The problem is the trigger is WAY WAY too early. 4 level 5 hero's and week 20. By that time, you MIGHT have level 4 equipment? There's almost no possible way you'll have level 5 gear which you really need for the quest.

Once you have that, it's not difficult at all, I've done it twice now with minimal issues both times. I agree with Sir Francis that it should only spawn once you've beaten half the champion level bosses.