Good team for Farmstead?

[Leslian Lexter]

Hey guys.

Whats a good team for farmstead?

I just figured out that some abilities, you only get to use once during the run, severely gimping alot of my teams.

Any ideas?

[Neko Chan]

Vestal/Jester/MAA/Shieldbreaker is just the ultimate team for farmstead that's great all around. I use healing trinkets like Junia's head and Sacred scroll for Vestal, Bright tambourine and Overture box for Jester, Mirror shield and Ancestor's coat for MAA, Spectral speartip and Legendary bracer. Vestal spam heal, judgement and stun skill (I only uses judgement for self healing vestal or and stun skill if my team are full health but sometimes I stun one last enemy with low stun resist to stress heal and heal my team), Jester spam battle ballad for always 95% accuracy, speed buff and +40% crit, stress heal skill and 2 bleed skills (I don't use finale because it's kinda ruin the team comp at least its for me), MAA retribution, defends skill, buff and bolster (saves for the last encounter), Shieldbreaker pierce, impale, adder's kiss and serpent sway (only swap impale to puncture before fighting Miller because winter breath). Wait for the best endgame reflection which is sainguine reflection for me (reflection effect only happens after 200 kills). The camping skills I only uses most of the time are MAA Weapon practice and Tactics, Shieldbreaker Snake eyes (Before the Sleeper fight) and Bless (Because other camp skills doesn't give much benefit so I just stack dodge to 80 for MAA lol), Jester stress healing camp skills pretty much. Other than that endless harvest revolves some luck considering it is very long and the color effects, pray that you get virtue roll and other stuff to get 300 kills achievement. After that achievement I only does the farmstead again when the week event is double crystal. It's pretty tiring to kill 300 enemies. I hope this helps and doesnt have any major very obvious red flags and flaws in it.

[Leslian Lexter]

Originally posted by Neko Chan:

Vestal/Jester/MAA/Shieldbreaker is just the ultimate team for farmstead that's great all around. I use healing trinkets like Junia's head and Sacred scroll for Vestal, Bright tambourine and Overture box for Jester, Mirror shield and Ancestor's coat for MAA, Spectral speartip and Legendary bracer. Vestal spam heal, Jester spam battle ballad for always 95% accuracy and +40% crit, MAA retribution, defends skill, buff and bolster (saves for the last encounter), Shieldbreaker pierce, impale, adder's kiss and serpent sway (only swap impale to puncture before fighting Miller because winter breath). Wait for the best endgame reflection which is sainguine reflection (reflection effect only happens after 200 kills). Other than that endless harvest revolves some luck considering it is very long and the color effects, pray that you get virtue roll and other stuff to get 300 kills achievement. After that achievement I only does the farmstead again when the week event is double crystal. It's pretty tiring to kill 300 enemies. I hope this helps and doesnt have any major very obvious red flags and flaws in it.

Thanks man. Very detailed help there! Ill try it out.

[Neko Chan]

Read it again there's some addition I put in there after I edit, thought best of luck in endless harvest! It's pretty fun after you have finished everything in DD. You could use only virtue mod if you are too stressed out because of the sow of seed spam from the farmhands, at least that's what I do lol.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=959215172

[Leslian Lexter]

Originally posted by Neko Chan:

Read it again there's some addition I put in there after I edit, thought best of luck in endless harvest! It's pretty fun after you have finished everything in DD. You could use only virtue mod if you are too stressed out because of the sow of seed spam from the farmhands, at least that's what I do lol.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=959215172

Thanks so much for the help. You are a hero.

[Skinny Pete]

My personal team is VES/JES/HWM/LEP. Jazzed up with spamming Battle Ballad, LEP is a one man wrecking crew where his frontline AoE often kills the first two ranks. Constant crits are such a source of stress relief you rarely even need to use JES as a single target stress reliever.

Bring those Ancestor's Tentacle Idol and Hero's Ring trinkets, move them between heroes, fish for virtues. If you get afflicted anyway, Jester can fix that stuff.

Use Leper's Revenge at the opening of any series. It lasts the whole series. HWM's Tracking Shot has a rare useful moment in any boss fight. Same with Jester's Finale, which you should not waste on the grind, but save for a boss. Remember to switch these skills over in the camp you generally get before a boss.

I should note LEP is probably not the absolutely optimal choice here, but he's really fun, and for a change, not a complete disaster to bring along. Also I have a particularly quirked up Leper who is more or less made for Farmstead.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1652192714

[Neko Chan]

Originally posted by Skinny Pete:

My personal team is VES/JES/HWM/LEP. Jazzed up with spamming Battle Ballad, LEP is a one man wrecking crew where his frontline AoE often kills the first two ranks. Constant crits are such a source of stress relief you rarely even need to use JES as a single target stress reliever.

Bring those Ancestor's Tentacle Idol and Hero's Ring trinkets, move them between heroes, fish for virtues. If you get afflicted anyway, Jester can fix that stuff.

Use Leper's Revenge at the opening of any series. It lasts the whole series. HWM's Tracking Shot has a rare useful moment in any boss fight. Same with Jester's Finale, which you should not waste on the grind, but save for a boss. Remember to switch these skills over in the camp you generally get before a boss.

I should note LEP is probably not the absolutely optimal choice here, but he's really fun, and for a change, not a complete disaster to bring along. Also I have a particularly quirked up Leper who is more or less made for Farmstead.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1652192714

The problem with Leper is that he cannot attack every enemy rank, dont have armor piercing for high prot enemies, cannot hit all of them at once (shieldbreaker's impale). I use MAA instead of HWM because MAA got high health, decent damage, can guard and very consistent on riposte because of the self mark. VES/JES is essential in every farmstead run.

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by Neko Chan:

The problem with Leper is that he cannot attack every enemy rank, dont have armor piercing for high prot enemies, cannot hit all of them at once (shieldbreaker's impale). I use MAA instead of HWM because MAA got high health, decent damage, can guard and very consistent on riposte because of the self mark. VES/JES is essential in every farmstead run.

That's a reasonable choice, but attacking every rank is somewhat less important when it isn't a round-based fight and any empty enemy rank is just going to be filled again anyway. I usually have Intimidate on his bar, so he actually can attack every rank, just weakly. It's relatively often he can actually finish off a low HP enemy with this, or debuff a really dangerous one. Also he usually is crit-buffed out the ass, so it isn't even that infrequent he just double-crits the front lines and brings those guys up anyway.

Like I pointed out, though, I know he's not strictly optimal.

[Neko Chan]

Originally posted by Skinny Pete:

Originally posted by Neko Chan:

The problem with Leper is that he cannot attack every enemy rank, dont have armor piercing for high prot enemies, cannot hit all of them at once (shieldbreaker's impale). I use MAA instead of HWM because MAA got high health, decent damage, can guard and very consistent on riposte because of the self mark. VES/JES is essential in every farmstead run.

That's a reasonable choice, but attacking every rank is somewhat less important when it isn't a round-based fight and any empty enemy rank is just going to be filled again anyway. I usually have Intimidate on his bar, so he actually can attack every rank, just weakly. It's relatively often he can actually finish off a low HP enemy with this, or debuff a really dangerous one. Also he usually is crit-buffed out the ass, so it isn't even that infrequent he just double-crits the front lines and brings those guys up anyway.

Like I pointed out, though, I know he's not strictly optimal.

Sometimes it can be a problem (for bosses like The Hag and The Thing From The Stars), for an example two Bone Defenders with 45% Prot (Can get 25% more from guarding buff) and a Bone Bearer in rank 4 or rank 3. Shieldbreaker with high crit% could one shot and erase the enemy's corpse using Pierce. So yeah, I recommend using my team comp for great all around but if you are doing great with your own comp it's okay pick any that works best for u.

[Yuna]

Originally posted by Neko Chan:

Vestal/Jester/MAA/Shieldbreaker is just the ultimate team for farmstead that's great all around. I use healing trinkets like Junia's head and Sacred scroll for Vestal, Bright tambourine and Overture box for Jester, Mirror shield and Ancestor's coat for MAA, Spectral speartip and Legendary bracer. Vestal spam heal, judgement and stun skill (I only uses judgement for self healing vestal or and stun skill if my team are full health but sometimes I stun one last enemy with low stun resist to stress heal and heal my team), Jester spam battle ballad for always 95% accuracy, speed buff and +40% crit, stress heal skill and 2 bleed skills (I don't use finale because it's kinda ruin the team comp at least its for me), MAA retribution, defends skill, buff and bolster (saves for the last encounter), Shieldbreaker pierce, impale, adder's kiss and serpent sway (only swap impale to puncture before fighting Miller because winter breath). Wait for the best endgame reflection which is sainguine reflection for me (reflection effect only happens after 200 kills). The camping skills I only uses most of the time are MAA Weapon practice and Tactics, Shieldbreaker Snake eyes (Before the Sleeper fight) and Bless (Because other camp skills doesn't give much benefit so I just stack dodge to 80 for MAA lol), Jester stress healing camp skills pretty much. Other than that endless harvest revolves some luck considering it is very long and the color effects, pray that you get virtue roll and other stuff to get 300 kills achievement. After that achievement I only does the farmstead again when the week event is double crystal. It's pretty tiring to kill 300 enemies. I hope this helps and doesnt have any major very obvious red flags and flaws in it.

Do you use that team for anywhere else? You make it sound like a pretty nice team composition so I was just wondering.

[Neko Chan]

Originally posted by Yuna:

Do you use that team for anywhere else? You make it sound like a pretty nice team composition so I was just wondering.

Take too much damage? VES. Take too much stress? Jester. Want to have a guy who dodges most of the attack while having 61 health, mark himself for all enemies focus on him/consistent riposte and can def? MAA. Want to target specific rank first before it causes problem while armor piercing, use block to nullify raw damage and can hits every ranks at once using one skill? Shieldbreaker. Great for endless harvest because Its a great team for every situation but not a great team for a specific situation. For an example if I fight formless flesh, I use PD/VES/HM/Flagellant because you can stack so much blight/bleed so easily or if I go to ruins I bring 4 crusaders (it works pretty well lol). To answer your question. No, at least not really because there are options for better team.

[Yuna]

Originally posted by Neko Chan:

Originally posted by Yuna:

Do you use that team for anywhere else? You make it sound like a pretty nice team composition so I was just wondering.

Take too much damage? VES. Take too much stress? Jester. Want to have a guy who dodges most of the attack while having 61 health, mark himself for all enemies focus on him/consistent riposte and can def? MAA. Want to target specific rank first before it causes problem while armor piercing, use block to nullify raw damage and can hits every ranks at once using one skill? Shieldbreaker. Great for endless harvest because Its a great team for every situation but not a great team for a specific situation. For an example if I fight formless flesh, I use PD/VES/HM/Flagellant because you can stack so much blight/bleed so easily or if I go to ruins I bring 4 crusaders (it works pretty well lol). To answer your question. No, at least not really because there are options for better team.

Ah ok thanks, your team comp sounds like a pretty strong build. I sorta suck at this game the random crits and high damage is just absurd but do love this game a lot I've never played a game like DD before were it is designed to ♥♥♥♥ on u but tbh I do love it a lot even tho I am little bad.

[Neko Chan]

Originally posted by Yuna:

Ah ok thanks, your team comp sounds like a pretty strong build. I sorta suck at this game the random crits and high damage is just absurd but do love this game a lot I've never played a game like DD before were it is designed to ♥♥♥♥ on u but tbh I do love it a lot even tho I am little bad.

It sure is design to ♥♥♥♥ on u but thats the fun of it, even with the best preparations u could still get ♥♥♥♥. The title says the game is about making the best out of a bad situation, while the game also make sure you aren't that out of control of everything. Others might hate me for this but truth be told this game comes down to RNG considering everything are dicerolls but you can use every diceroll for your advantage (by stacking it most of the time using trinkets or camp skills lul). Some might disagree that dodge is useful but it got it's own calculation too which u can rely on, Accuracy + Accuaracy(buff) - Dodge = Hitchance (90% Max, 10% Min). Just because you couldn't see the calculations doesn't mean its unreliable, its the same as accuracy. Again, it's all ultimately comes down to RNG but you can make it work in your favor (Of course it hurts when you got crit hit with high dodge stats but it hurts way more if you got low dodge stats and get hits everytime). The thing I love the most about this game is the NARRATOR. You can feel the strength of your broken Leper's steel from Ancestor's barking at your ears. Good luck on your farmstead and DD playthrought! I won't be commenting in this game's discussion anymore because of my bad first encounter with this game's discussion community. Thought you are all great in this thread!

[Yuna]

Originally posted by Neko Chan:

Originally posted by Yuna:

Ah ok thanks, your team comp sounds like a pretty strong build. I sorta suck at this game the random crits and high damage is just absurd but do love this game a lot I've never played a game like DD before were it is designed to ♥♥♥♥ on u but tbh I do love it a lot even tho I am little bad.

It sure is design to ♥♥♥♥ on u but thats the fun of it, even with the best preparations u could still get ♥♥♥♥. The title says the game is about making the best out of a bad situation, while the game also make sure you aren't that out of control of everything. Others might hate me for this but truth be told this game comes down to RNG considering everything are dicerolls but you can use every diceroll for your advantage (by stacking it most of the time using trinkets or camp skills lul). Some might disagree that dodge is useful but it got it's own calculation too which u can rely on, Accuracy + Accuaracy(buff) - Dodge = Hitchance (90% Max, 10% Min). Just because you couldn't see the calculations doesn't mean its unreliable, its the same as accuracy. Again, it's all ultimately comes down to RNG but you can make it work in your favor (Of course it hurts when you got crit hit with high dodge stats but it hurts way more if you got low dodge stats and get hits everytime). The thing I love the most about this game is the NARRATOR. You can feel the strength of your broken Leper's steel from Ancestor's barking at your ears. Good luck on your farmstead and DD playthrought! I won't be commenting in this game's discussion anymore because of my bad first encounter with this game's discussion community. Thought you are all great in this thread! :portalbirdhead:

Ye I love the narrator too. I love the lines and sorry to hear that the forums can be a toxic place sometimes but thanks for the replies and good luck. :D

[Tomasz12345678]

my set up is VEST/JEST/HWMN/SHLD
generic trinkets, mainly focusing damage speed and dodge on front two, with max stress healing on jest using the challice from crimsion court and the crystal banjo thing, and vestal using max healing.
spam boost party acc and crit from jester, your highwayman and shieldbreaker will be getting countless crits non-stop, pretty much.
my current record is 210, generally ending runs around there as well
Edit: new PB is 395 with the same set up

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by Yuna:

Do you use that team for anywhere else? You make it sound like a pretty nice team composition so I was just wondering.

About the only obligatory part of a Farmstead team is a VES/JES backline, because you seriously need both healing and stress relief for sustainability, and JES's Battle Ballad finds a rare use here, because for a change, you can actually stack it to the max because the fight is going to go on long enough to get advantage out of it.

I personally like Leper here because for a change, this poor abused character is actually useful. He has a few areas where he's awkward, but for a change, attacking the frontline is a reasonable strategy. What disadvantages he has are compensated for by how well he can deal with nonsensical Farmstead situations like the endless series of Giants and other frontline bruisers you sometimes see. Also if you quirk him up you can make a specifically Farmstead-specialized Leper and not use him for anything else. The Prismatics are really good for Farmstead itself and if you just do Farmstead runs you'll collect them like Pokemon.