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Taisen Sep 14, 2017 @ 5:43pm
The lore between Dismas and Reynauld
Did Dismas kill Reynauld's wife and child? Looking at the comics from the wiki.
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ThatStrangeGuy Sep 14, 2017 @ 5:54pm 
There's no lore behind the famous duo, they're just the starting heroes you have. And it's unknown who the Highwayman killed and why it guilt racked him into changing his ways, but it should be left as a mystery.
The First Vicar Sep 14, 2017 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by ThatStrangeGuy:
There's no lore behind the famous duo, they're just the starting heroes you have. And it's unknown who the Highwayman killed and why it guilt racked him into changing his ways, but it should be left as a mystery.

Well that's first time and last time he killed a mother and child (or his own wife and child)
thats why he's feels very guilty,
It was a reflex he didn't mean to do as stated by his Crimson Court Trinket set.
Also his Affliction barks somewhat prove it as well.

"No! I DIDN'T KILL HER! 'TWAS AN ACCIDENT!"

"My sweetheart... I'll be with you presently"

"Her form, writhing under sheets. A dark spot spreads"

"She rode in an ivory stagecoach - a vision in the night"

"I swore to never kill a child"

As for Reynauld it seems he's trying to forget his family life becuase he swore him self to the church as stated by the Crimson Court Trinket set.

"I will forget them. Regret is sin."

All in all, we don't know 100% of their backstorys besides the comics and few in game quotes.
ThatStrangeGuy Sep 14, 2017 @ 6:43pm 
I know well enough why he's like that because I adore HWM, but it's just so strange that killing a child and mother is the absolute breaking point. He's fine killing countless others and those carriage drivers, but a mom & child is too much for him?

I don't know, guess it's just the matter of his morals; he thinks killing any person that isn't a child or mother is ok.
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The First Vicar Sep 14, 2017 @ 7:26pm 
Well my guess would be that was first time he'd killed a mother and child both together,
and site of the mother holding her child trying to protected him out fear and horror, Would have more of affect then just killing fully grown adults, becuase he may have killed
women and men in the past who were maybe mothers and farthers but none had their childen riding with them, but that's just my guess.
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Tacitus Sep 15, 2017 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by ThatStrangeGuy:
I know well enough why he's like that because I adore HWM, but it's just so strange that killing a child and mother is the absolute breaking point. He's fine killing countless others and those carriage drivers, but a mom & child is too much for him?

I don't know, guess it's just the matter of his morals; he thinks killing any person that isn't a child or mother is ok.

It makes sense, in a strange sort of way. Dismas was a thief, not a murderer, except by necessity. Prudent carriage drivers in the age of highwaymen tended to arm themselves or ride with armed escorts (the origin of the phrase 'riding shotgun'). The highwayman's weapons were used more for intimidation, as he would usually be long gone before the victims reported the robbery to the next constable.

Thus, accidentally killing a defenseless mother and her child would be a horrific wake-up call to a highwayman who prided himself on his skills and being superior to he petty thugs and cutthroats that prowled the city alleys, i.e. the bandits you fight in the game. By killing that mother and her son, Dismas realises that he is even worse than the random bandits, because even they wouldn't murder a defenseless woman and young child.

Some people speculate that the woman and boy were Dismas' family. I think it's more likely that they are Reynauld's family, and Dismas carries the locket and bloodstained handkerchief as a sort of penance. Reynauld's 'redemption' is abandoning his wife and son when they needed his protection; Dismas' is atoning for the life he led.
Reverend Belial Sep 15, 2017 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by ThatStrangeGuy:
I know well enough why he's like that because I adore HWM, but it's just so strange that killing a child and mother is the absolute breaking point. He's fine killing countless others and those carriage drivers, but a mom & child is too much for him?

I don't know, guess it's just the matter of his morals; he thinks killing any person that isn't a child or mother is ok.
That's actually not that uncommon, even among real-world murderers. Even many hardened criminals draw the line at children.
awesomechan15 May 1, 2023 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by ThatStrangeGuy:
I know well enough why he's like that because I adore HWM, but it's just so strange that killing a child and mother is the absolute breaking point. He's fine killing countless others and those carriage drivers, but a mom & child is too much for him?

I don't know, guess it's just the matter of his morals; he thinks killing any person that isn't a child or mother is ok.
Uniquely, Yes, certain criminals like Dismas here, Draws boundaries
NvMe 令 May 3, 2023 @ 8:00am 
came here just to say no, the devs comfirmed that the mom and kid dismas killed had no relations to reynauld
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