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someguy216 2017 年 6 月 23 日 上午 8:38
The hardest boss in the game is!... Necromancer Lord?
So the other two necromancers are pretty easy, but why on earth is the lord version literally impossible? Also when I use the word "impossible" that is not me using the word as an exageration, but as in it's literal meaning. You cannot, I repeat, cannot defeat a boss that deals 20 damage per turn and summons a bone general every turn. I know its up to RNG with his summons (which is some awful game design btw) but even if you get lucky and he summons a smaller tanky skeleton, it's still not long before another bone general appears.

Have no idea why a basic boss is harder then the final boss...
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Agony 2017 年 8 月 10 日 下午 6:22 
Two proper Lvl 6 Crusaders eat him for breakfast (or dinner..according to your torchlight level).
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wolkenwand 2017 年 8 月 10 日 下午 7:21 
Any enemy can be the hardest mob if you got the bad luck moment. It happens sometimes, the bad luck. I got lucky when fighting this boss because he summon giant skelly after the fight has gone long time, i ignore the mob and finish the boss considering his health is below half.
Prophet 2017 年 8 月 10 日 下午 9:47 
So, yesterday I beat the Necromancer lord using 2 Plague Doctors, an occultist, and a Crusader. Blight Bombing for days..

Conversely this afternoon before going into work I had a much more ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ encounter.

Long Champion Weald run. I'd finished the objective to explore 90% of the rooms, and had just camped so everybody was fine.. Camping had opened up some space so I figured I could go and search the remaining rooms to grab some extra loot.. First room I come into has 4 spiders(2 green, 2 orange).. Spiders are nothing special, AND I surprised them. Miss Miss, Not enough damage, Miss. Their turn - They all hit my Crusader. Mark crit crit, hit, Dead. In their 4 actions they took my level 6 maxed out crusader to the graveyard..
elipod 2017 年 8 月 11 日 上午 12:27 
引用自 someguy216
and summons a bone general every turn.
For a neco to summon bone general every turn, bone general should die every turn, wish I had that fire power)
Just Hitting My Stride 2017 年 8 月 11 日 上午 3:28 
He's not even hard, he's still a easy boss.
Bomber 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 3:52 
So i just barely beat the Necromancer :D It was a dance at deaths door... But i had a very semi-optimal (shi.tty) composition.
People were losing there mind and praising dot on him, especially bleed damage... So i thought alright lets take some bleed as well.
So my composition was: Plague Doctor, Occultist, Houndmaster, Hellion.
Well, turns out this comp is shi.tty as hell in this fight :D Houndmasters 2 damage bleed is pretty much useless, while he does less damage than an Arbalest, the Hellion was fine and i was able to hit all ranks with her, get some good bleed on him as well. The Plague Doctor was probably the character that fit most into this fight. The Occultist was starting to troll me midst fight, when he suddenly only healed for 0-2 three times in a row... :exhume:
Id say he is an easy boss, if you take the right composition, which now after beating him i would say is Plague Doctor, Vestal and Crusader. Maybe take a Leper to deal with the summoned undead, or maybe a Bounty Hunter to shuffle the enemies a bit around and getting the Necro to the front.
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wolkenwand 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 4:00 
引用自 Bomber
So i just barely beat the Necromancer :D It was a dance at deaths door... But i had a very semi-optimal (♥♥♥♥♥♥) composition.
People were losing there mind and praising dot on him, especially bleed damage... So i thought alright lets take some bleed as well.
So my composition was: Plague Doctor, Occultist, Houndmaster, Hellion.
Well, turns out this comp is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ as hell in this fight :D Houndmasters 2 damage bleed is pretty much useless, while he does less damage than an Arbalest, the Hellion was fine and i was able to hit all ranks with her, get some good bleed on him as well. The Plague Doctor was probably the character that fit most into this fight. The Occultist was starting to troll me midst fight, when he suddenly only healed for 0-2 three times in a row... :exhume:
Id say he is an easy boss, if you take the right composition, which now after beating him i would say is Plague Doctor, Vestal and Crusader. Maybe take a Leper to deal with the summoned undead, or maybe a Bounty Hunter to shuffle the enemies a bit around and getting the Necro to the front.
Congratulation, you lucky can survive deathdoor, i was lost 4 champion because they receive deathblow after the deathdoor at my previous boss run, the flesh.
Bomber 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 4:12 
Well, it wasnt THAAT much luck involved. When the Necromancer summons a minion, it will not be able to attack for one turn, so i was able to plan ahead. My Occultist was at deaths door once and my Houndmaster thrice :D Plage Doctor was extremely low and Hellion on half HP, when i killed the Necromancer. But i still had to deal with a Bone Captain. Flesh will be hell of a lot fun as well :D :D looking forward to that fight. This might be a good fight with Houndmaster.
wolkenwand 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 5:17 
引用自 Bomber
Well, it wasnt THAAT much luck involved. When the Necromancer summons a minion, it will not be able to attack for one turn, so i was able to plan ahead. My Occultist was at deaths door once and my Houndmaster thrice :D Plage Doctor was extremely low and Hellion on half HP, when i killed the Necromancer. But i still had to deal with a Bone Captain. Flesh will be hell of a lot fun as well :D :D looking forward to that fight. This might be a good fight with Houndmaster.

Necromancer never lose a turn when summoning, which he always do after attack. Also yeah, flesh is fun, bring hellion if you want for pure damage and attacking all ranks.
bureau44 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 5:24 
引用自 Prophet
Long Champion Weald run. I'd finished the objective to explore 90% of the rooms, and had just camped so everybody was fine.. Camping had opened up some space so I figured I could go and search the remaining rooms to grab some extra loot.. First room I come into has 4 spiders(2 green, 2 orange).. Spiders are nothing special, AND I surprised them. Miss Miss, Not enough damage, Miss. Their turn - They all hit my Crusader. Mark crit crit, hit, Dead. In their 4 actions they took my level 6 maxed out crusader to the graveyard..
Exactly. I was wondering why people cry about spiders, just another trash mob.
I went with a party of veterans which had recently eviscerated the Baron in casual manner and now in a nice mood for a short stroll in the weald. Spiders? Mark crit, crit, crit, deathdoor, blight. Goodby my fairy lady forever. (
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Bomber 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 6:41 
引用自 wolkenwand
Necromancer never lose a turn when summoning, which he always do after attack. Also yeah, flesh is fun, bring hellion if you want for pure damage and attacking all ranks.

Not the Necro, the summoned minion wont attack!
Bomber 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 6:44 
引用自 bureau44
引用自 Prophet
Long Champion Weald run. I'd finished the objective to explore 90% of the rooms, and had just camped so everybody was fine.. Camping had opened up some space so I figured I could go and search the remaining rooms to grab some extra loot.. First room I come into has 4 spiders(2 green, 2 orange).. Spiders are nothing special, AND I surprised them. Miss Miss, Not enough damage, Miss. Their turn - They all hit my Crusader. Mark crit crit, hit, Dead. In their 4 actions they took my level 6 maxed out crusader to the graveyard..
Exactly. I was wondering why people cry about spiders, just another trash mob.
I went with a party of veterans which had recently eviscerated the Baron in casual manner and now in a nice mood for a short stroll in the weald. Spiders? Mark crit, crit, crit, deathdoor, blight. Goodby my fairy lady forever. (
Never had issues with spiders. Maybe you should equip some Sunrings? One of the most op Trinkets in the game.
h0b0king 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 7:04 
The cure to spider is speed - so graverobber and such.
Crossed 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 7:17 
You're correct, the Necromancer lord is harder than the last boss, because the last boss is actually quite easy to fight. The first time I fought him I did so poorly that he never even got to use his signature move, because my party was already getting massacred.... I still won though.

Also, 20 damage per turn is nothing considering he only has one action. A regular encounter in almost any dungeon can easily exceed that number. However, it's the addion of a summon that makes him impossible right?

The Sergent has a 57% chance of being summoned - He's easy, a whack from a crusader will usually insta kill him, he is LITCHERALLY insignificant in the fight unless he crits, or you're getting wrecked.

Shieldwall is 29% - he's annoying, but he is also slow, and not hard to stun. If he uses his guard ability, then you just need to stun him, and he has accomplished nothing.

Bone general is just 14% - I've never seen him summoned by the necro lord, so I can't really comment on him, but considering the fights that lead up to the Necro lord, he's definitely not something to cry over unless he pays a visit as soon as the fight starts.

The entire fight is about control and luck.

Don't let the minions get out of control during the first 4 rounds (after that it usualy won't matter, as the Necromancer will be near death, and the fight will just become a regular mob fight except only 3 enemies, all of which are easy enough to handle)

Hope he doesn't summon the tanky guys every turn, because they're damage pits. However odds are 2 sergents will be summoned, so the odds are already in your favor.

Unless you get really unlucky (turn 1 bone general, which is immediately replaced upon death, and consecutive enemy crits) or have no clue what you're doing, you won't lose.
bureau44 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 8:42 
引用自 h0b0king
The cure to spider is speed - so graverobber and such.
引用自 Bomber
Never had issues with spiders. Maybe you should equip some Sunrings? One of the most op Trinkets in the game.
How would you know you gonna meet spiders? I guess they are possble in every dungeon.
Normally they are not an issue, unless all 4 attack a SINGLE char and crit, while your hi-spd chars miss.
I am in the week 34 and the sun ring appeared in the dungeon for the first time now.
I've never been so deep in the game before, and now see that the SPD becomes the more important stat with every week.
But anyway. She was vestal and it woudn't come to my mind to speed-buff her in the first place. So the sad creature never had a chance to heal herself.
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