death door vs bleed

[Chilli-Göttinger]

my maximum stacked death blow resistance flagellant (seal + collar) just died on his first death door check through bleed (that baron will die for sure the next time i see him) and the discussions hadnt been exactly yes or no, so does bleeding ignore deaths door or not? (and i would need to kill rngesus too)

[Laplace93]

No, neither bleeding nor blight can bypass a death door's check, your was only bad luck.

[Sir Francis]

13% is not a low chance of dying, never count on surviving.

[No One]

Originally posted by 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔰:

13% is not a low chance of dying, never count on surviving.

Try not to get upset when things that can happen, do happen.

OP found out why +deathblow resist is one of the worst possible stats on a trinket. Or a quirk, for that matter. It's only rivalled by things like +healing at camp.

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by No One:

Originally posted by 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔰:

13% is not a low chance of dying, never count on surviving.

Try not to get upset when things that can happen, do happen.

OP found out why +deathblow resist is one of the worst possible stats on a trinket. Or a quirk, for that matter. It's only rivalled by things like +healing at camp.

Choosing a trinket that gives you deathblow resist means you didn't choose a trinket that could keep you off death's door in the first place. It's like choosing a buff that gives you fire resistance when your hair is on fire when you could have chosen one that keeps your hair from catching on fire.

[RopeDrink]

choose a trinket that could keep you off death's door in the first place.

Or a trinket that would help you kill things faster, which invariably helps prevent DDoor in a lot of cases, especially boss fights. The longer a fight goes, the more chance negatives rolls have of going through.

Deathblow Res is something I never have and never would spec for as your goal throughout the game is often to avoid that situation at all costs - and this is typically done better with almost anything else, be it speed, accuracy, damage etc

Honestly, if you have 95% deathblow resistance, there is still a 5% chance of deathblows happening 100% of the time. Just like you might have a mere 5% chance to crit yet it just seems to happen again... And again... And again.

Unlucky is the word.

[Your Neighbour]

I had a crusader surviving 7 death blows before check my achivement lol

13% is low but it hppens

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by RopeDrink:

choose a trinket that could keep you off death's door in the first place.

Or a trinket that would help you kill things faster, which invariably helps prevent DDoor in a lot of cases, especially boss fights. The longer a fight goes, the more chance negatives rolls have of going through.

That's sort of what I meant, in that nearly any other kind of trinket, such as a +ACC, +SPD, +DMG, +Dodge, +PROT, etc. etc. etc. reduces your chances of ever hitting death's door, though I'm listing them in somewhat descending order of preference.

So almost any other kind of trinket is preferable to the death's door trinkets. About the only character who tends to hit it a lot and survive is Flag but even with him I don't use those and don't deliberately take him to DD or even leave him low on HP, buffs or no buffs.

[Chilli-Göttinger]

well i lost some heads and other better trinkets on this run with court enabled to the fanatic which i hadnt known much about till it was too late but i wanted to at least finally find that baron i ran around for 7 invitations while losing some dudes in the process so i equipped the most reasonable trinkets which were left and shrieker is out of herorange for now. :D

[No One]

My FLGs have failed more death's door checks than they've passed. Luckily I wasn't planning on them passing - I was deliberately trying out the main heal role, to see if they would get DD checks as often as I thought they would. (Yes.)

[spng]

When you have a bleed or plague dot on you its like 50\50 you will die. I dont know why but the game seems pretty rigged in that, i lost more heroes by dots rather than direct hits

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by spng:

When you have a bleed or plague dot on you its like 50\50 you will die. I dont know why but the game seems pretty rigged in that, i lost more heroes by dots rather than direct hits

No, more like if it's a direct hit you will do something about it. You don't get the chance with a dot.