The Thing From the Stars (DLC mini boss)

[Muddy]

This boss needs some balancing. (Ya I'm aware RNG hard game blah blah)

Veteran short dungeon Vestel, Jester, Highwayman, Crusader
I had full hp, 0 stress, and all rare or higher trinkets on.
He gets 8 attacks in before I get 1 with the jester party speed buff
Debuff the entire group after the first turn all my characters do 0 dmg and keeps reaplying the debuff.
3 Failed retreat attemps at 0 hp and the boss dodges 3 attacks when he is at 1 hp.

I get the game is hard but holy hell that just felt like the game pressed a delete button. There was not a single thing I could do, and can't think of a better party comp under better cicumstances either. This boss has done this to me 2/4 times I have faced him.

tldr; boss debuffs your party to 0 dmg after 1 round. Boss gets 8 turns to your 1.

[maury's cameraman]

That's never happened to me. It could entirely be the party composition that you are running. Bosses with more than one move per round will usually go before you no matter what the speed on your team is (stupid, I know). He also has a buff that enables when he calls a crystal down to give him additional PROT and DMG when he's below 45% so that is a factor as well. I would suggest bringing in some other people and tinkering around with compositions, even if you don't think they will work. Good luck. :))

*Edited for spelling errors.* Side note: my team comp for fighting him that has proven to be successful time and time again consists of Musketeer | Occultist | Highwayman/Leper as these two tend to switch around a lot due to Duelist's Advance.

[Muddy]

I had the best speed buff in the game, the best healer in the game, and the best stress reducer in the game. No way of making the comp any better imo.

[maury's cameraman]

Sorry, that sucks then. I haven't had an issue with the boss as I've said before but one gameplay isn't the same for everyone. Nonetheless, I still wish you luck.

[No One]

That's not how the boss behaves in my game. Are you using pre-CoM mods?

[Muddy]

No all vanilla

[Magni]

Originally posted by Muddy:

He gets 8 attacks in before I get 1 with the jester party speed buff

Literally impossible, the Thing only has 2 actions per turn, plus its automatic use of Return to the Stars at the start of each turn to cause group stress and summon a Crystalline Aberration.

Debuff the entire group after the first turn all my characters do 0 dmg and keeps reaplying the debuff.

Also definitely not possible.

The Thing afaik doesn't debuff damage at all, with any of its attacks. It does however gain a huge permanent buff that amongst other things gives it ~80% PROT once it hits below half health. Once you're there, you need to use -PROT debuffs, DoTs (bleed/blight) or armor-piercing attacks like the Shieldbreaker's Pierce or the Grave Robber's Pick to the Face.

3 Failed retreat attemps at 0 hp and the boss dodges 3 attacks when he is at 1 hp.

So now the boss is at 1 hp... how exactly did it get there if it "debuffed the entire group after the first turn to do 0 damage"? I smell ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

PS: There is no "best healer" or "best stress reducer". Group synergy and what you're up against make a one-size-fits-all solution to any role very much impossible.

[Muddy]

Shows what you know, he debuffs -5 speed with the dmg protection. Can all be applied in a turn. Do you have any more git gud arguements or something to actually contribute?

I tried leaving on my jesters and vestels turns. While I did 1-2 dmg with my crusader and highwayman.

In the future you will get more respect being just plain aggressive instead of passive aggressive.

[Woody]

The first time I ran into him I thought my party was doomed.

DoT and healing was what worked for me.

If I recall I had the highwayman, crusader, the hero with the crossbow and flagelant
Every turn:

Crusader using smite,

Flagelant using the attack that causes bleeding.

Highwayman using bleeding attack

Crossbow hero was healing or shooting the Thing.

Took awhile. Ended my run because of stress, but my heroes made it out alive.

I did retreat at first it took 3 attempts to finally succeed. I camped and hoping he was gone went back. That time I stayed and fought. He appeared becasue I wanted to see what happened using a torch on a curio.

[League of Legends]

Originally posted by Magni:

Originally posted by Muddy:

He gets 8 attacks in before I get 1 with the jester party speed buff

Literally impossible, the Thing only has 2 actions per turn, plus its automatic use of Return to the Stars at the start of each turn to cause group stress and summon a Crystalline Aberration.

Debuff the entire group after the first turn all my characters do 0 dmg and keeps reaplying the debuff.

Also definitely not possible.

The Thing afaik doesn't debuff damage at all, with any of its attacks. It does however gain a huge permanent buff that amongst other things gives it ~80% PROT once it hits below half health. Once you're there, you need to use -PROT debuffs, DoTs (bleed/blight) or armor-piercing attacks like the Shieldbreaker's Pierce or the Grave Robber's Pick to the Face.

3 Failed retreat attemps at 0 hp and the boss dodges 3 attacks when he is at 1 hp.

So now the boss is at 1 hp... how exactly did it get there if it "debuffed the entire group after the first turn to do 0 damage"? I smell ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

PS: There is no "best healer" or "best stress reducer". Group synergy and what you're up against make a one-size-fits-all solution to any role very much impossible.

He’s correct about everything except the thing does do debuffs. Only fought him I think once or twice on that difficultly, I had a leper, shieldbreaker, jester, and vestal. It was a decently easy fight.

[Magni]

Originally posted by Muddy:

Shows what you know, he debuffs -5 speed with the dmg protection. Can all be applied in a turn. Do you have any more git gud arguements or something to actually contribute?

Ah yeah, Transfixing Shard. Which is a relatively low damage debuff that doesn't evne remotel come close to your hyperbolic nonsense "0 damage OMG!" And guess what, it still doesn't get 8 moves a turn outside of your personal delusions.

I tried leaving on my jesters and vestels turns. While I did 1-2 dmg with my crusader and highwayman.

So, why not try leaving with everyone? Oh yes, you were being dumb and greedy.

In the future you will get more respect being just plain aggressive instead of passive aggressive.

Right back at you, you little passive-aggressive weasel. Try to not get insulted when people point out that you're being plain dumb and telling ♥♥♥♥ in the future.

As for git gud "arguments"? That's not an arguemnt. You needing to git gud is a demonstratable fact, given the claims you're making. Wether you accept that fact and actually try to rectify the problem or remain being a whiny, passive-aggressive idiot in acute denial is up to you. Hint: The latter is a hell of a lot more likely to actually get you any success, both in the game and when it comes to not being deservedly called out on your whiny ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Muddy]

Originally posted by Magni:

Originally posted by Muddy:

Shows what you know, he debuffs -5 speed with the dmg protection. Can all be applied in a turn. Do you have any more git gud arguements or something to actually contribute?

Ah yeah, Transfixing Shard. Which is a relatively low damage debuff that doesn't evne remotel come close to your hyperbolic nonsense "0 damage OMG!" And guess what, it still doesn't get 8 moves a turn outside of your personal delusions.

I tried leaving on my jesters and vestels turns. While I did 1-2 dmg with my crusader and highwayman.

So, why not try leaving with everyone? Oh yes, you were being dumb and greedy.

In the future you will get more respect being just plain aggressive instead of passive aggressive.

Right back at you, you little passive-aggressive weasel. Try to not get insulted when people point out that you're being plain dumb and telling ♥♥♥♥ in the future.

As for git gud "arguments"? That's not an arguemnt. You needing to git gud is a demonstratable fact, given the claims you're making. Wether you accept that fact and actually try to rectify the problem or remain being a whiny, passive-aggressive idiot in acute denial is up to you. Hint: The latter is a hell of a lot more likely to actually get you any success, both in the game and when it comes to not being deservedly called out on your whiny ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

It hapened and it happend 2/4 times I have faced him. 2x he was easy and blown up, 2x he went ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I really don't know what to tell you. The DLC just came out and you are pretending to be an expert as if this game has never had balancing issues. Not everyone is a ♥♥♥♥ posting beta.

Judging from your prev post this seems this is your norm. I recommend adding some meat to your diet, maybe pick up a hobby like wood working, vit D, and talk to your doctor about a testosterone supplement.

[Frostylicious]

I understand how you feel, OP. Seems like The Thing is tougher than other enemies from the CoM DLC.

If you’re concerned about dealing little to no damage at him, that means he’s below half health and issued a buff on himself that gives him +80% PROT and a few other things that have slipped my mind.

It’s ideal to use bleed/blight at this stage, while managing stress, since the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tends to crit a lot. So I think the Jester shines quite a lot here. He’s got “Slice Off”, and “Inspiring Tune”.

However, you should also know that The Thing damages itself slightly when it summons those crystals. I believe it’s 9 damage? Roughly 5% or 1/20th of its HP. So honestly at that stage, unless you have a pretty reliable stun (which is unlikely since it has high stun resist), it’s a DPS race. Dish out bleed/blight damage while it slowly kills itself.

[League of Legends]

Well the dmg debuff, possibility to stun, and his own buffs to his protection is what makes it so most champs only deal like 1-5 dmg

[Mr. Greenz]

I just wish the bosses wouldn't stack up, I have had it happen twice now where I have lost full parties because it decides that on my lvl 1 dungeon to hit me with both the thing from beyond the stars and then the collector.

[League of Legends]

Originally posted by Hollywoo:

I just wish the bosses wouldn't stack up, I have had it happen twice now where I have lost full parties because it decides that on my lvl 1 dungeon to hit me with both the thing from beyond the stars and then the collector.

Collector is pretty inconsistent, sometimes he takes 2 or 3 rounds one time I think I may have surprised him and he died in the first round forgot what my comp was tho. But the new boss is consistently hard and takes a good amount of rounds, also I feel his reward is lack luster like some crystals? That’s kinda garbage tbh and then some random trinket, on lower levels it’s just a very rare trinket not a new trinket from the dlc.