Large flesh eater WTF

[Tazor]

He just critted me for 54 and put me on death's door instantly. On a character that has 10% PROT. According to the wiki his tentacle devour can do a maximum of 13 damage. Which is increased by 100%, to 26 against marked targets (yes, he was marked).

Which means the absolute MAXIMUM he can crit for is 52. But he critted for 54. On a character that has 10% PROT. Explain this.

Not only that, but he hit EVERY attack. While I had 54 dodge. From an attack with 102% ACC. While I am missing attacks with 70%-80% chance to hit.

[Kaiserdog]

any mods or bad character traits

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Kaiserdog:

any mods or bad character traits

No mods. His bad traits have nothing to do with damage taken. Anemic, tone deaf, plutomania, hylomania.

[Kaiserdog]

could just be overconfidence

[Kaiserdog]

they do say it is a slow and insidious killer

[sasiji]

Which lvl of carion eater?

[sasiji]

I guess Champion one:
Ok then important information:
Dmg attack of carion: 107.5% base acc .dmg 10-20 crit chance 19%,

Bonus vs marked +100% dmg low and high (aka change 10-20 to 20-40)

Crit always mean (max dmg=40)×1.5->
so you get 60 dmg,

10% prot mean you get 90% of dmg.

60×0.9=54 Crit dmg from Carion eater large while being marked amd having 10% prot

[Tazor]

Originally posted by sasiji:

I guess Champion one:
Ok then important information:
Dmg attack of carion: 107.5% base acc .dmg 10-20 crit chance 19%,

Bonus vs marked +100% dmg low and high (aka change 10-20 to 20-40)

Crit always mean (max dmg=40)×1.5->
so you get 60 dmg,

10% prot mean you get 90% of dmg.

60×0.9=54 Crit dmg from Carion eater large while being marked amd having 10% prot

Where did you get those numbers? I am using the wiki.

https://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Large_Carrion_Eater#Champion_

The most powerful attack of the champion version does 7-13 base damage. Not 10-20. Crit 17%. 102,5 ACC. The numbers are off. Have I been using the wrong site?

[PalmTree]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by sasiji:

I guess Champion one:
Ok then important information:
Dmg attack of carion: 107.5% base acc .dmg 10-20 crit chance 19%,

Bonus vs marked +100% dmg low and high (aka change 10-20 to 20-40)

Crit always mean (max dmg=40)×1.5->
so you get 60 dmg,

10% prot mean you get 90% of dmg.

60×0.9=54 Crit dmg from Carion eater large while being marked amd having 10% prot

Where did you get those numbers? I am using the wiki.

https://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Large_Carrion_Eater#Champion_

The most powerful attack of the champion version does 7-13 base damage. Not 10-20. Crit 17%. 102,5 ACC. The numbers are off. Have I been using the wrong site?

You're forgetting to apply his +100% damage vs marked. That brings his max damage to about what sasji said (26).

[Tazor]

Originally posted by PalmTree:

Originally posted by Tazor:

Where did you get those numbers? I am using the wiki.

https://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Large_Carrion_Eater#Champion_

The most powerful attack of the champion version does 7-13 base damage. Not 10-20. Crit 17%. 102,5 ACC. The numbers are off. Have I been using the wrong site?

You're forgetting to apply his +100% damage vs marked. That brings his max damage to about what sasji said (26).

I did...26 maximum damage vs marked. Even if the crits doubled the damage as I initially thought, it would only do a maximum of 52 damage. But it hit me for 54. But since crits apparently only increase damage by 50% it would mean a maximum of 39 damage. I have no idea where he got those numbers. 10-20 base damage. But 10-20 damage seems closer to reality considering that crit on a 10% PROT character.

[PalmTree]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by PalmTree:

You're forgetting to apply his +100% damage vs marked. That brings his max damage to about what sasji said (26).

I did...26 maximum damage vs marked. Even if the crits doubled the damage as I initially thought, it would only do a maximum of 52 damage. But it hit me for 54. But since crits apparently only increase damage by 50% it would mean a maximum of 39 damage. I have no idea where he got those numbers. 10-20 base damage. But 10-20 damage seems closer to reality considering that crit on a 10% PROT character.

Question- did this occur in the Courtyard, or just the Warrens?

[Tazor]

Originally posted by PalmTree:

Originally posted by Tazor:

I did...26 maximum damage vs marked. Even if the crits doubled the damage as I initially thought, it would only do a maximum of 52 damage. But it hit me for 54. But since crits apparently only increase damage by 50% it would mean a maximum of 39 damage. I have no idea where he got those numbers. 10-20 base damage. But 10-20 damage seems closer to reality considering that crit on a 10% PROT character.

Question- did this occur in the Courtyard, or just the Warrens?

Warrens.

[sasiji]

Numbers are from game itself.
Steam/steamapps/common/DarkestDungeon/monsters/carrion_eater_big/carrion_eater_big_C

carrion_eater_big_C.info.darkest

[sasiji]

I don't use wiki too often because there are a lot of fanfictions, Outdated informations or even false informations.
And crits are always (max possible damage) × 1.5

Yea i checked wiki, carrion eater information are outdated.

[No One]

The wiki wasn't updated for the last major patch, which nerfed most monsters slightly, but buffed the large carrion eater into one of the most dangerous monsters anywhere.

skill: .id "tentacle_devour" .type "melee" .atk 107.5% .dmg 10 20 .crit 19% .effect "Damage Marked Target" "Carrion Devour Debuff 5" .launch 1234 .target 123

Gotta especially love large corpse eater + swine skiver pulls. The skiver wasn't nerfed at all.

Huh. They even nerfed the unclean giant.

skill: .id "club_smack" .type "melee" .atk 97.5% .dmg 19 37 .crit 16% .effect "Push 1E" .launch 4321 .target 12

I was thinking that a large carrion is now a faster unclean giant with reach, but no the giant can't crit for 60 anymore.

On the plus side, the sword fish used to be able to one-shot an unbuffed shieldbreaker in full dark, but now can't. Plus the spectral speartip now exists. Double unstunned/non-dead sword fish can still ruin a SBR's day even in full light and after buffs, though.

[sasiji]

Also warrens carrion and Courtyard ones are exactly the same.