Wilbur party wipe anyone? :)

[nemserultnem]

Just as the title suggests - have you ever had your party wiped by Wilbur? :D To me it has just happened on Endless - arriving with >200 kills and full of confidence (full hp, minimal stress) to the Swine Prince, he brought down my entire party's (Vestal-Jester-Shieldbreaker-Shieldbreaker) health close to 0 with the 2 SB on death's door, one of the SBs finished him at which stage Wilbur started to mass stun everyone & both SBs died to his ~2 dmg mass attack while the Vestal was stunned and unable to heal. :) At this stage I was left with a pos. 1 Jester (no skills to use, Finale he already emptied) & a position 2 Vestal (only the stun was available), both on ~2-3 HP and stunned. THIS was the moment I decided to flee, now I am running after my lost trinkets LOL.

Has anyone had party wipe / defeat by only Wilbur as well? :) Btw I received an achievement "That'll do, pig...", so I guess it was worth it. :)

[waouh]

I've had people die to Wilbur but never had a party wipe lol. that sucks but honestly its kinda funny, and at least you get an achievment out of it (plus its not like your heroes are gone forever bc it's endless)

[Laplace93]

Not a party wipe but close enough, and I've to add that everyone who have ever looked at the brain of monsters in the game files should know that the real boss is not the king but Wilbur

[Smuckem]

Only have lost one person to a Wilbur, a Legend Onnabushi...probably one of only two times the God and his master have given me any significant trouble.

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by nemserultnem:

Has anyone had party wipe / defeat by only Wilbur as well? :) Btw I received an achievement "That'll do, pig...", so I guess it was worth it. :)

Not a party wipe but lots and lots of people have lost one or more party members to him.

http://reddit.com/r/♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ has some examples (you'll have to uncensor the url).

[Trash Panda]

no, but i fimrly beilive flaggelants are garbage. I've never had one survive more then 1 turn with MAX (85%) death door resist. 600ish hours into it and any flag that gets to 0 i just conisder an absolute lost cause. I think in my last game i had 8 or 9 in the graveyard and they were the only thing in the graveyard.

[⎝⧹Za Furan⧸⎠]

Don't underestimate the piggy.

[PalmTree]

Originally posted by Trash Panda:

no, but i fimrly beilive flaggelants are garbage. I've never had one survive more then 1 turn with MAX (85%) death door resist. 600ish hours into it and any flag that gets to 0 i just conisder an absolute lost cause. I think in my last game i had 8 or 9 in the graveyard and they were the only thing in the graveyard.

If you're letting your Flagellant hit Death's Door you're using them wrong.

What you call garbage most players consider one of the best frontliners in the entire game.

[RopeDrink]

no, but i fimrly beilive flaggelants are garbage.

They've gone from being the most brokenly OP heroes in the game, to very solid A-tier post-revamp.

I've never had one survive more then 1 turn with MAX (85%) death door resist.

So part of your judgement involves them not winning an RNG dice-roll with a 15% chance to fail even when capped?

If you're putting effort into increasing that safety net (which only applies if you get to 0), then I'm afraid you are using the hero very incorrectly.

600ish hours into it and any flag that gets to 0 i just conisder an absolute lost cause. I think in my last game i had 8 or 9 in the graveyard and they were the only thing in the graveyard.

Please consider that this may be less about a class and possibly more to do with how they are being used, or what comps they are being used in. Your above statement about DBR indicates to me that this is the case.

FLA is a super-generalist - one of the best in the game - who fits into many comps, including the best CC comps in the game and is also strong in CoM, both endless and its respective mini-boss. He is a god in general content (non-expansion), being a mega-aggressive OHealer and OSHealer with the best bleeds in the entire game by miles (making him a natural boss killer), who happens to be quite fast (and gets faster when hurt), pumping out respectable flat damage on top of his already obnoxious bleeds provided you give him appropriate trinkets.

None of the above applies if you are the type who tries to abuse his DBR dice-roll factor, because then you are sacrificing all that potential to increase a chance in a dice-roll where you can never achieve 100%, thus have no guarantee of it winning. DBR is NOT a playstyle.

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As for the topic, no, I have not wiped to Wilbur, but he did end by first serious CoM run, mostly because I got the achievement and went on auto-pilot. Ironically, said group also had a FLA, and said FLA was the one to die, but again, this was largely my own negligence. I know for a fact I could have gone much farther if I really wanted to at the time, but I was done at the 300 mark.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1444791640

[Skinny Pete]

Originally posted by Trash Panda:

no, but i fimrly beilive flaggelants are garbage. I've never had one survive more then 1 turn with MAX (85%) death door resist. 600ish hours into it and any flag that gets to 0 i just conisder an absolute lost cause. I think in my last game i had 8 or 9 in the graveyard and they were the only thing in the graveyard.

If you gamble with death's door resist you're going to lose. Also why are you just ignoring it and continuing fighting? Either Flag gets to go again before it and, if any character is on DD and you can't heal them and attacks are incoming, why aren't you just retreating?

[waouh]

Originally posted by Trash Panda:

no, but i fimrly beilive flaggelants are garbage. I've never had one survive more then 1 turn with MAX (85%) death door resist. 600ish hours into it and any flag that gets to 0 i just conisder an absolute lost cause. I think in my last game i had 8 or 9 in the graveyard and they were the only thing in the graveyard.

flag SHINES below 33% hp- note that that is not 0% hp :) this is the same reason dd res trinkets are terrible. even if you change a d8 to a d12, you can still roll a threshold of 3 and die. flag is designed to absorb other characters' stress and damage while damaging himself in order to build damage and, eventually, deliver a massive heal to keep him and his party members alive. it's why is one of the best- and one of the most interesting- classes in the game!
also the flag thing is a total nonsequitor

[nemserultnem]

Following my streak of 'good luck' on RNG with the Wilbur party wipe / flee 2 days ago & connecting to the somewhat altered topic of Flagellants, today my Legend Flagellant killed himself (!) in the 2nd round (!) of the second battle (!) of a Weald mission. :D At the end of the first round a stealthed Crone marked him, two Fungal Crawlers hit him with Rend the Marked (one normal & one crit) - he hit death's door, I quickly checked and got relieved that he does not have any blight/bleed ie. should be good to be healed - only to see him starting the next turn and damaging himself as he was Rapturous (I intendedly kept it on him from previous missions) & immediately DEATHBLOW. It all happened in about 10 seconds from over 50-60+% HP, all I could do was to watch it in disbelief. :D In the graveyard it says "Fell to an ally" LOL - no achievement for this one. :( :)

Kinda annoying btw that I lost two Flagellants (a Champion and a Legend one) already during the campaign, both on their _very first_ ever respective DD checks (one even had its DD res boosted to 83%).

Anyone had a self-killing or ally killing hero? :D A self-kill combined with a Wilbur party wipe maybe?!?! :DDD