What an annoying game

[Sgt. YippyYap]

Annoying unfair game.

I knew that this game was difficult and unfair when I was coming into it. But playing it is even worse. It seemed so appealing. And I really wanted to like it.
But it's horrible, it's unbalanced, it's unfair

Enemies spam your characters with the same stress causing attacks. I lost so many characters because of the stress. Or they all gang up on one of your character and just kill it instantly.
Usually all enemies have higher speed than you. So huge majority of enemies get to go first. Or even when they have lower speed than you they get to go before you somehow.
Sometimes enemies go two times in one round, even though they have only one marker that signifies that they can go only once.
Your heroes being surprised on full light level instead of the enemies.
Stupid nonsensical afflictions that can just pile up in one round, and extreme high cost of removing those, if you survive the mission.

In levels that are one difficulty higher than the easy or "apprentice", enemies have high damage protection, high speed, high dodge and a lot of health. I just got two rounds where maybe 1 out of 4 attacks hit. While all of theirs hit. And 2/4 of their attacks were crits. Even though I had full light

And it would be fine if you weren't forced to play these "veteran" levels when you level up your heroes to level 3, because they feel too good for the lower levels... What a stupid game mechanic

Such an unfair RNG. Worst than in any game I played, and I played some games with garbage RNG

Yeah right, just give me a random alien boss that walks around the dungeon, has tons of health, protection and resistance and deals 20 damage to every hero in one attack, as well as crits and deals status effects AND causes dissease
like who in the hell designed this?

This game is the king of abysmal rng...

I can't express enough how disappointed I am with this. I put 19 hours into it as I really tried hard to love it. And now I regret that I did, because I can't refund this piece of hot garbage.
Even though I got it on sale, the ancestral edition for 20 euros or so. It's not worth 5, and it's even less worth my time that I spent playing it

I'm sorry Dead Cells, I'm sorry Hollow Knight and some of your random un-dodgeable boss attacks. I'm sorry for ever doubting you
This is the true king of absolute cheap RNG. You two are GODS compared with this

[Determined Man]

"the salt shaker" is an incredibly fitting title.

[PalmTree]

Two salt posts in less than three hours. That's a new record, I think.

I just want to point that several things you say are actually completely invalid.

1- If you were playing on Radiant Mode, which is the recommended mode for new players, you would be able to take lv. 3/4 heroes into level 1 dungeons. The game even tells you this during difficulty selection.

2- Enemies almost never have higher speed if you're actually using fast heroes. Even for the enemies that do have higher speed, speed trinkets exist. If you were all the way at veteran missions you were almost guaranteed to have a Feather Crystal, Swift Cloak, Berserk Charm, Quick Draw Charm, or at the very least a Speed Stone. There are also tons of camping skills and quirks that buff speed, as well as tons of other methods of increasing it.

3- You can't expect to never be surprised on full light. Players getting surprised is still somewhat rare in high light, but just because it's a reduced chance doesn't mean it can't happen. Also, you can decrease your chance of being surprised with a number of trinkets and camping skills as well. Same applies to surprising enemies.

4- 19 hours is nothing. There are people here who have almost 400, and ranging all the way up to over 1000 hours. You are not going to get any sympathisers here because everyone here knows from experience that there's ways to prevent every single thing you complain about, especially when it comes to mitigating RNG.

Also, I'm playing Hollow Knight right now. Not that far in but so far everything has a method to dodge it, including boss attacks. Don't compare a combat intensive Metroidvania to a roguelite RPG, there's no basis for comparison whatsoever.

[No One]

Does telling a steam forum that you're not going to play a game help at all? I would have though it would be easier to not play it and get on with your day.

[Stark Raving Mad]

I hate the RNG in this game too, and you know what I end up doing?
I go back to playing this because I realize that spending the time writing salt threads on forums isn't going to help make me get better at the game.

I suggest, restart the game then do it again with the knowledge you've gained. Sucks to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by the RNG but welcome to the Dungeon.

[HappyHam]

Originally posted by Admiral Stark Raving Mad:

I hate the RNG in this game too, and you know what I end up doing?
I go back to playing this because I realize that spending the time writing salt threads on forums isn't going to help make me get better at the game.

I suggest, restart the game then do it again with the knowledge you've gained. Sucks to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by the RNG but welcome to the Dungeon.

Well said.

[unkn0wnx]

Sigh. RNG sucks, but as you get better it seem to be a bit more tolerable. Monster crits are just horrible. Sometimes they can crit you 40+ out of no where, and I am not talking about the boss or two slots guys. Wham and dot killed you.

[RopeDrink]

RNG sucks

Only if you don't know how to deal with it.

Annoying unfair game.

Only if you don't know how to play it.

I can't express enough how disappointed I am with this.

Then head on over to the review section where you can rant to your heart's content. Heading into a community of people who actually like the game merely to shout "I'm not one of you" is a tremendous waste of time. Mostly yours.

[⛧CyberDemonEmpress⛧]

He already made a review, where he makes the same statements as he does here more or less. But I am guessing the reasoning behind posting it in the forums as well is some kind of rage induced troll attempt..

[Sir Francis]

Pathetic case of "Sale-noob whining"

[Marcelin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqwTiIxwmg

[ΛMΞDΞX 🖤🐨]

I started to play this game 4 days ago, and i like it, already 4 of my heroes have died and im still playing it, i agree that rng sucks but, theres good rng too, like the heal of the occultist or even the grape shot, you can crit with grape shot the 3 enemies you hit, and if you have played dark souls, you might have heard it, GIT GUD

[Marcelin]

The RNG is average it is what it is not really tipped in favour of anyone, the entire point of the game is balancing your party trinkets and skills to counter not only what your going to be fighting but also the jobs they need to fill. Give your Plague doctor a trinket to buff their blight skill chance, and have them do the bulk of the damage in a Ruins missions, take a Crusader to AOE the front ranks with his bonus damage to unholy also on the same ruins mission. In just two heroes we can do good to great damage on all 4 positions of the enemy team two at a time. Take a Vestal with an AOE heal to keep everyone off deaths door, and A highwayman to pick off any survivors.

If anyone has done any time in the game you'll notice this is exactly your starting comp, targeted for exactly your starting mission, all the information to succeed (Party composition and skills matter, good variety of heroes and roles are key to victory) was right there in your face from the get go. Any failings or struggle you have with the game are solely your own, Read the stats, and ability descriptions look at enemy stats and plan accordingly. It'll become natural in time.

[Gin-chan]

i love the salt that comes with this game XD .

[Marcelin]

Originally posted by Gin-chan:

i love the salt that comes with this game XD .

Thus far the only real salt is on the OP, everyone else has given criticism that whilst in some cases may not be nice is all too valid.

[Gin-chan]

Originally posted by -- Hawkin SH-Lag Lord:

Originally posted by Gin-chan:

i love the salt that comes with this game XD .

Thus far the only real salt is on the OP, everyone else has given criticism that whilst in some cases may not be nice is all too valid.

Ik and i was of course referring to the OP :D