What's a good party with abomination ?

[Cadelanne]

I've been trying to rock the abomination and to this day I failed quite hard to have a really efficient party. I often lack heal and stress management become an issue. How do you play it ?

[BornToKill]

This interests me as well.
I was yet only able to play lowest level dungeons on normal difficulty but this combo works for me quite good: Occultist/Houndmaster/Abomination/Hellion.
Normally i start a fight by stunning rank 1-3 and try to kill rank 4 (or 3) depending on enemy type with Occ and HM. Houndmaster is rank 3 for being able to stress heal. Also dont forget his stress healing camp ability. I dont know if this would work well in champion dungeons.

[Valmar]

I agree, I use this when I can, or with other tank (Crusader can also stress relief).

[Herr Gutentauben]

I use occult, jester, abom and hellion.

The jester gives you an amazing freedom on using the beast form thanks to his reliable stress heal.

Also, his bleeds are not to be understimated, specially with a bleed amulet or bloody dice on.

[Valmar]

Originally posted by Dr Kappa:

I use occult, jester, abom and hellion.

The jester gives you an amazing freedom on using the beast form thanks to his reliable stress heal.

Also, his bleeds are not to be understimated, specially with a bleed amulet or bloody dice on.

The only problem with jester is that uses bleeds, while Abom uses blight. They don't combine very well in dungeons because of that. Jester is better in weald or warrens with flagellant, houndmaster, etc, while Abom is better in ruins or cove. At least not in position 3. If you use the jester with finale-stress heal from positions 1 and 4, then you can do it better, but it has been nerfed a bit.

Not saying it's not doable, just I don't see as efficient as other parties.

Cheers

[Herr Gutentauben]

I use jesters in the cove and as long as he has bleed chance trinkets he is fine.

[Cadelanne]

I hate occultist and have not trained any of them, same goes with Jester, can't use them properly :/

Went in with Houndmaster + Arbalest + Abomination + Hellion so I had good damages and enough heals but I stressed out quite fast on a medium duration mission, and didn't transform abomination often.

[Ridan Krad]

Originally posted by Valmar:

I agree, I use this when I can, or with other tank (Crusader can also stress relief).

Remember that religious characters can't team up with the abomination, so crusader won't work in this case.

There are three stress healer's available to the abomination: the houndmaster, the jester, and the abomination himself. Because the abomination also stress out the rest of the party when transforming, it's a good idea to have a stress healer for the rest of the party. Either the jester or houndmaster would work for this, but the houndmaster might work a little better because his stress heal targets the whole party and he's, IMO, a stronger class overall compared to the jester. However, either one should work.

You will also want an HP healer. The vestal and flagellant are obviously out because both are religious, so that leaves the occultist as a strong healer (with the arballest, plague doctor and antiquarian as possible options for secondary healers). I recommend the occultist for an abomination group, not only as a healer, but also because, on medium and long quests, he has a +20% DMG buff that he can use for the abomination. The abomination also has a camping skill that self buffs for +25% DMG and his skill rake gives an additional +15% DMG buff when it's used. This makes the abomination great as a high damage AOE character when transformed. Meanwhile, when not transformed, the abomination works well as a stunner and can self heal when not doing that.

[BornToKill]

Well i have to admit i normally only use the human form of abomination.
Only in tough fights i transform him. I guess if you want to transform him more often, you will really need a jester.

[What The Sigmar?]

Honestly, abomination works well with any party comp, I've found, so long as your party can adapt to being moved back a position or forward a position depending on what state of being the abomination is in.

However, the class that complements abomination best is probably the jester, as he's able to easily compensate for all the stress damage caused by the abomination's transformations.

[Radical Rat]

Originally posted by RIP Carriers forever in my heart:

Went in with Houndmaster + Arbalest + Abomination + Hellion so I had good damages and enough heals but I stressed out quite fast on a medium duration mission, and didn't transform abomination often.

If you have enough dps you can always use camp buffs - Theraphy Dog + Helion's Revel ( it's great stress healing skill, and it's enough to use Med Herbs after that to cure debuff )
Also equip HM with Ancestor's Scroll for better stress heal.

[Mystic Myotis]

The general consensus here is something I support.
I guess it depends to a degree on what dungeon you're going to and what skills of the Abomination you want to use/not use. For example, if you're only interested in his transformed skills, you could put him in first position and have both a houndmaster and a jester (or two houndmasters). But if you're in a place where you want him to be spamming blight/stun, then you can probably get away with not taking a stress healer, and you might consider bringing a plague doctor for stacking blight DoTs.

Er, but I'm no expert. If you want him in the second position, Hellion and MaA are good to have in first position.

Originally posted by Nightsail:

Vestal

Dude....

[What The Sigmar?]

Originally posted by Gaawa_chan:

Originally posted by Nightsail:

Vestal

Dude....

Best response. lol

[Cadelanne]

Originally posted by Nightsail:

Vestal / Arbalest / ABM / Man at Arms
or
Houndmaster / Houndmaster / ABM / ABM

Both of these parties are extremely good. I could even go through champion dungeons in the weald (as everbody knows, the weald is seriously rage inducing on champion difficulty).

You can't get a Vestal with an abomination, unless it became possible with crimson court that I don't own yet.

For now I went with Houndmaster / Arbalest / Abomination / Highway man. This party seems to work quite well even if highway man isn't optimized and I'd probably have sloted a Hellion instead if I had one avalaible. Houndmaster is the key element I missed, as the stress heal and the very good combo with arbalest including a bonus but very handy prot debuff are quite usefull.

On the other hand, you have to heavily focus your houndmaster on stress healing, which mitigate the benefits of having the strong transformed abomination a lot.

Also this party is very vulnerable to shuffling, which is a decisive handicap on higher difficulties for what I now see. You still can pull it off by tanking with lot of self heals and take your time to reorganize your party but you'll take a beating doing so.

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Occultist, grave robber, abom, highwayman. Give the grave robber and highwayman all their movement abilities, becaues the abomination doesn't care where he is for the most part except in the very back row. This let's you go hog wild with the grave robber and highwayman's best abilities and not have to worry about having a character with dead turns. It does a lot of damage, and the abom provides some very useful crown control. The occultist provides heals and some back line damage.

[Hanki]

Most times I use abomination is just for the stun and the blight
I dont usually transform it, but when I do I dont usually get to much stress
Jester, Occultist, Abomination and man-at-arms or bounty hunter, something that does good in front