Swine skiver harder than a boss

[ReNegade]

I am the only one who think this ennemy is way too powerful ?

I'm not joking, this one really needs to be rebalanced because now he's just unkillable.

[FancyFishie]

I think he's really powerful too. I just avoid champion Warrens quests jsut because of this enemy.

[Schism]

Yeah this guy just made me uninstall. Was a fun run up until I went into my first Champion Warrens. This guy AOE'd my group for 5-15 dmg plus blight application 2-3 times. After my group was clearly going to lose this fight i failed to retreat 3-4 times. By the time I could retreat I only had one guy left. Lost 3 guys plus 6 ancestory/unique items.

Just when you think you are understanding the game the devs put in some bullcrap like the Skiver. No other enemy in the game compares to this level of rediculousness, not even the mushroom resurrecting jerk with 1000 evasion in the weald stacks up to this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I am pretty disappointed with the Radiant update. The game still feels grindy AF late game with crap tons of RNG due to super high evasions/crits of enemies in champion+ dungeons.

[Just Hitting My Stride]

I quite agree, he needs a nerf, but keeping powerful is full on ok with me, he's meant to be a enemy you HAVE to kill striaght away, or die trying.

[Frostylicious]

???

I have no trouble killing him at all. Sure he does a lot of damage, but I've been able to counter that very easily through the use of stuns and damage debuffs.

[No One]

The last three skivers I fought didn't live long enough to do any damage at all.

[jackinthebox4]

Plague Doctor with Houndmaster or Bounty Hunter makes short work of him using stuns. It hits hard, but that's why you focus on him.

Same tactic works on the Swinetaur, but he's extremely easy once you get them alone. That's why I like powerleveling characters in the Warrens.

[Enfild]

Originally posted by Schism:

Yeah this guy just made me uninstall. Was a fun run up until I went into my first Champion Warrens. This guy AOE'd my group for 5-15 dmg plus blight application 2-3 times. After my group was clearly going to lose this fight i failed to retreat 3-4 times. By the time I could retreat I only had one guy left. Lost 3 guys plus 6 ancestory/unique items.

Just when you think you are understanding the game the devs put in some bullcrap like the Skiver. No other enemy in the game compares to this level of rediculousness, not even the mushroom resurrecting jerk with 1000 evasion in the weald stacks up to this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I am pretty disappointed with the Radiant update. The game still feels grindy AF late game with crap tons of RNG due to super high evasions/crits of enemies in champion+ dungeons.

Lol, truth be told, you would probably lost anyway. Transitiin from veteran to champion is brutal experience, even without skiver.

You all focus on a wrong thing. Skiver is fine, as long as you can control backrow, what you should ALWAYS do.
Real problem is, that with introduction of new enemy types, that ALL happen to be backrow, heroes that focus on frontrow became completely obsolete. Yea, you can use them, and sometimes quite effective, but due to the fact, that all stress dealers in the back, it will not end well.

[Schism]

And.... I reinstalled. sigh

[Lujo]

Naah, there's still plenty of room for front row guys and if anything, having fat creeps in the back row made pulling and corpse clear a tad more relevant. And the Leper does ridiculous damage, he'd be relevant if he had no skills but Chop.

The Swine Skewer is meh beause he has no stun resistance, and monsters either have effective stun resistance / immunity or are irrelevant vs. a decent party. The swine is also pretty vulnerable to being pulled to the front, or so I've heard.

Also, it's problem is that most of it's power is concentrated in one out of it's 3 attacks, which is a pretty nasty attack, but it can easily never get used depending on stuns and how fast you can kill it (and it's not even that fat).

It's not a very well designed enemy, all things considered, but not in it's favor.

[kill rock stars]

I only fought Skiver 2 times I think, haven't done a lot of quests in Warrens, but both times he just died in 2 turns under focus. He deals a lot more damage than any other new champ enemy, but unlike them, he doesn't have mad stun resistance, which makes it easier to control him rather than just blow all you've got on him(like you do with Ghast or Virago).

He might still be the nastiest of the new additions, but then again Warrens is the easiest region probably - easy to navigate, little burst damage, Swinetaur and Devourer are super underwhelming compared to Giant/Crab who make you go specific heroes/tinkets/parties just to deal with the chance of meeting them(especially the crab, recently I went 2 times into Cove without PD, one time I had to abandon just because my hero got the Red Plague, second time I ran out of bandages and could only complete the dungeon without causalities because sir Collector was nice enough to spawn when my party was tattered)

[errantstar]

Skiver just does HP damage which is literally 100% irrelevant to any party that isn't built horrifically badly

[Mr. G]

Which one is the Skiver? The one that looks like a gladiator/centaur pig? If so I do hate that guy, but he is killable.

[Just Hitting My Stride]

Originally posted by Mr. G:

Which one is the Skiver? The one that looks like a gladiator/centaur pig? If so I do hate that guy, but he is killable.

Yes you're right, and i agree, but still think he needs his damage output slimmered down anit.

[figbyfigbyfigby]

Just focus him with murderous prejudice, stun him if he isn't dead 1st turn, debuff his dodge if you can't reliably hit him.

Anyway, the moment you see him, you know he must be dead ASAP, possibly before turn 2.

[Frostylicious]

Originally posted by figbyfigbyfigby:

Just focus him with murderous prejudice, stun him if he isn't dead 1st turn, debuff his dodge if you can't reliably hit him.

Anyway, the moment you see him, you know he must be dead ASAP, possibly before turn 2.

And if stuns don't work, use damage debuffs from the Occultist or Vestal. Or Leper if you can move the skiver to the front row.