A tasteful post about the Hellion's legs

[Panfilo]

The Hellion has some nice gams. That lady's definitely been doing her lunges. Along those lines....

This game is interesting in that the female heroes are not overly sexualized. I mean yeah, there's still boob plate but the fact that the Plague Doctor rocked the 'Samus effect' (ie "Plague Doctor is a girl? Really?" ) by a lot of players indicates that they weren't going out of their way to play up the female heroes sexuality. You could argue the female cultists' outfits are more provocative, but in regards to the heroes themselves, especially the female heroes, they are a lot more conservative than a lot of games. Vestal and Arbalest aren't wearing some kind of 'armored bikini' they actually seem to be equipped for the job as much as the Crusader or Leper are. For being a barbarian the Hellion isn't wearing some skimpy fur outfit; her getup is practically a Burqua in comparison to her obvious Red Sonja inspiration.

Boob plate aside, its a nice step in a direction that points out that this is a grimdark game, not one with female characters that look like they are 12 years old with overdeveloped chests and underdeveloped armor bouncing and hopping around.

[Dauntless Duelist]

I mean, considering the theme of the game, it would be strange to see it otherwise.

[Panfilo]

If this game was made by a company like Konami or something you'd have some topheavy Hellion stun the front two rows by slapping her ta-tas at them.

[No One]

I think it's pretty great. If I want to look at porn, there's this thing called the internet. Unrealistically sexualized designs are distracting and immersion-breaking.

[Panfilo]

Postat inițial de No One:

I think it's pretty great. If I want to look at porn, there's this thing called the internet. Unrealistically sexualized designs are distracting and immersion-breaking.

The thing is, you can have characters that are distinctly 'women' 'badass' 'etc' without having to take the path of least resistance. All the heroes are very distinct, they all have unique outfits and poses. The reason I even mentioned the Hellion's legs in the first place is because it is only if you are using Iron Swan that you even see her legs, which is pretty significant in this day and age.

The reason I brought up the Plague Doctor initially is because unless a player payed close attention to the descriptions in the Hamlet and looked at the poses carefully, they wouldn't know she was even a woman (admittedly, for a time I wasn't certain until I read the details). This ambiguity doesn't take away from her charicterization any more than Samus Aran being in a bulky robot suit does.

Another important thing is that while there is a 'Brothel' in the game, not only is it accessed by heroes regardless of genders (I'd like to imagine the ladies are attended to by oiled and considerate employees generous with their back rubs and active listening skills) and there's no suggestive portraits or anything like that; the adventurers are broken individuals trying to eke out some shred of human connection in a crapsack existence.

[Bunnuh'Bun]

Haha... then there are mods :P

[errantstar]

Actually it is Good and Cool that there are strong independent wymin in video games OP

[CloudSeeker]

I don't think that characters being sexualized is a problem in any way. If a women have big boobs and show a lot of skin the males will be ripped to hell with biceps like a head. However this game is not about being pretty or looking cool, this is about survival and nothing more. To have sexualized characters does not cause damage, but can make the game silly if you do it in a bad way. In this game having sexy character is silly as that isn't close to realistic and you can't create a lovecraftian horror if there isn't some kind of realism.

Also do you know why the female cultists have more provocative? It might simply be because they are cultists and may have that kind of clothing for their cult rituals that most likely involves some kind of sexual debauchery.

[Lauleyhn]

You're kidding. The game is full of tentacles and other hentai references.

[Syntax Error]

Postat inițial de Lauleyhn:

You're kidding. The game is full of tentacles and other hentai references.

Japanese anime porn doesn't have a lock on all tentacle references, you know. You ever heard of that Cthulhu guy? The one with an octopus for a face?

[CloudSeeker]

Postat inițial de Lauleyhn:

You're kidding. The game is full of tentacles and other hentai references.

I think you look at to much tentacle hentai mate. From my experience finding good tentacle hentai is rather hard. Also tentacles are very common in the Cthulhu mythos, just because something have tentacles doesn't mean its about hentai. Yeah, my ability to get jokes are negative 200

[errantstar]

Postat inițial de CloudSeeker:

From my experience finding good tentacle hentai is rather hard.

lol ok OP

[Captain Keen]

I despise the fact that - across the entirety of gaming - men are pictured as hulking mucslemen in loincloths, or super soldiers, or whatever style over over-masculinzed wankjob fantasy ideal you might wanna come up with ....... yet for some incalculable reason people look at a bit of cleavage or thigh, lose their minds and cry about sexism and sexualisation, objectification and similar ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiocy.

[Panfilo]

Postat inițial de Captain Keen:

I despise the fact that - across the entirety of gaming - men are pictured as hulking mucslemen in loincloths, or super soldiers, or whatever style over over-masculinzed wankjob fantasy ideal you might wanna come up with ....... yet for some incalculable reason people look at a bit of cleavage or thigh, lose their minds and cry about sexism and sexualisation, objectification and similar ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiocy.

Both are the product of male power fantasy but the difference is that there is far more diversity acceptable in male body types in games than women.

That's why I described the Samus Effect; put a female character in a gender neutral uniform/suit and suddenly gamers have trouble determining if the character is actually female. Boob armor has the same problem; it is a stylistic choice which presumed the viewer won't completely know the wearer's gender without the telltale lady lumps.

[errantstar]

Postat inițial de jerjare:

Both are the product of male power fantasy

So what the hell is the female power fantasy then? Whining about how oppressed you are online?

[The Saddest Healer]

Postat inițial de jerjare:

Postat inițial de Captain Keen:

I despise the fact that - across the entirety of gaming - men are pictured as hulking mucslemen in loincloths, or super soldiers, or whatever style over over-masculinzed wankjob fantasy ideal you might wanna come up with ....... yet for some incalculable reason people look at a bit of cleavage or thigh, lose their minds and cry about sexism and sexualisation, objectification and similar ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiocy.

Both are the product of male power fantasy but the difference is that there is far more diversity acceptable in male body types in games than women.

That's why I described the Samus Effect; put a female character in a gender neutral uniform/suit and suddenly gamers have trouble determining if the character is actually female. Boob armor has the same problem; it is a stylistic choice which presumed the viewer won't completely know the wearer's gender without the telltale lady lumps.

Actually, the reason the Conan is a thing is actually based on a old idea that vikings came into battle without armor. (or wearing silly hats) Conan is the natural end of that idea. A big brick with punching everything. It is a trope as old as time the "untamed warrior"

The Super Solider was designed for the purpose of well,war propaganda. Get butts into armies. No one wants to be told they are gonna be cows to the butcher shop. So,you make the idea of fodder enemies. Look at the book verson of Starship troopers to understand this kind of idea.

Also, as far as power fanasty goes. well,up for debate different strokes and all.

Also, the Samus effect is fine. The plague doctor is a professonal doctor (of malpartice) and well,you are doing battle with being whos gore is jsut as rotten as their attacks.


Also,what even brought this up as something to be talked about is confusing.

This is Gothic fanasty, the battle biniki would not work here. Now,If It was a higher fnasty setting It wouldbe more flexable.