My 0.2 cents on defeating the Swine Prince

[Mr. G]

I managed to finally get around to smiting the Swine Prince. In my opinion he is quite a bit easier than The Hag. He is essentially just a big bag of hit points.
However, I'm always open to gameplay tips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3rv4lUu9fg

[Solo Death]

Pro tip: Arbalest's Rallying Flare removes Wilbur's marks and completely breaks the fight, making it even easier.

[Mr. G]

I love me some pro-trips. That is good to know thanks for the heads up.

[Dr. Uncredible]

Triple Tip: 1. Hovering over enemies you can check their resistances, Mr. Prince fer an example had 0% resistance to both blight and bleed, meaning unlike the rest of his kin he can be blighted down should one desire.
2. Since Mr. Prince does all the damage a liberal application of Weakening Curses from your occultist will cut damage to your party down a lot.
3. Absolutely leave Wilbur alone til last, Mr. Prince will do dreadful things to you if you touch his little buddy. (There are ways of getting around that I believe, but ususally, just leave the runt)

[figbyfigbyfigby]

Originally posted by Screaminglyjolly:

2. Since Mr. Prince does all the damage a liberal application of Weakening Curses from your occultist will cut damage to your party down a lot.

You can do even worse with:
- rank 1 Leper with intimidate (-20% dmg -5 ACC at lvl1)
- rank 2 Vestal with Hand of Light (-20% dmg -7 ACC at lvl1)
- rank 3 Occultist with Weakening Curse (-30% dmg at lvl1)
- rank 4 Arbalest with Rallying Flare to clear marks.

Alternate between debuffs and heavy hits or just spam debuffs (-70% damage -12 ACC in 1 turn at lvl1, and it stacks, plus some tiny bits of damage) and heal when necessary, then this battle can go on forever without any danger when the prince often misses or deal 0-3 damage at best. Once I've killed the swine god (champion level boss) at turn 18 with this strategy, all survived the fight.

[Dr. Uncredible]

Good list Figby!
Ah, yes, as Figs demostrates above, there´s a bunch of potential damage de-buffs, and while they are not super-important on apprentice dungeons, where things usually die pretty quickly, as the game progresses these will become more and more important.

[Xlomblie_Wheizard]

You know what is scary? Champion level Wilbur these days... I managed to avoid all the Swine God's attacks w/a combination of rallying flare, high dodge, & stuns from a Plague Doctor, and killed him with a party that was basically at full health... Only to have two heroes reach death's door from incessantly being squealed at, getting stunlocked, & having all their attacks dodged Who's the real boss here? Who's the real boss?!!

[Mr. G]

Originally posted by figbyfigbyfigby:

Originally posted by Screaminglyjolly:

2. Since Mr. Prince does all the damage a liberal application of Weakening Curses from your occultist will cut damage to your party down a lot.

You can do even worse with:
- rank 1 Leper with intimidate (-20% dmg -5 ACC at lvl1)
- rank 2 Vestal with Hand of Light (-20% dmg -7 ACC at lvl1)
- rank 3 Occultist with Weakening Curse (-30% dmg at lvl1)
- rank 4 Arbalest with Rallying Flare to clear marks.

Alternate between debuffs and heavy hits or just spam debuffs (-70% damage -12 ACC in 1 turn at lvl1, and it stacks, plus some tiny bits of damage) and heal when necessary, then this battle can go on forever without any danger when the prince often misses or deal 0-3 damage at best. Once I've killed the swine god (champion level boss) at turn 18 with this strategy, all survived the fight.

I will have to give this one a try thanks for sharing.

[Curious Fox]

Fun fact, if you stun Wilbur with a 0 damage stun, the prince does not react.

Flashbang
Disorienting grenade

and so on lol

[Mr. G]

Originally posted by Curious Fox:

Fun fact, if you stun Wilbur with a 0 damage stun, the prince does not react.

Flashbang
Disorienting grenade

and so on lol

Interesting tactic that one.

[Lujo]

Yep, Plague Doc just trivializes the whole encounter.

But as Xlomblie_Wheizard pointed out, getting left alone with Wilbur can cause a party wipe. I think what you're supposed to do then, if possible, is turn on riposte on the MAA you brought along to guard any guys who were marked.

Just don't activate riposte while the big guy is still alive, or you're in for trouble.

Although I'm not sure if big guy's stun resistance goes up, because if it doesn't PD can still hold him down somewhat well even after he goes nuts over you dinging wilbur behind the ear.

[Solo Death]

Originally posted by Curious Fox:

Fun fact, if you stun Wilbur with a 0 damage stun, the prince does not react.

Flashbang
Disorienting grenade

and so on lol

I didn't know this. That greatly improves the plague doctor in this fight.

[Lujo]

Originally posted by Solo Death:

Originally posted by Curious Fox:

Fun fact, if you stun Wilbur with a 0 damage stun, the prince does not react.

Flashbang
Disorienting grenade

and so on lol

I didn't know this. That greatly improves the plague doctor in this fight.

Plague doc with his 2 stun trinkets can keep them both stunned for 3 turns. (On medium, not sure about champion, but there it's two turns at least.) This only takes one action off wibur, though.

[Mr. G]

I will have to find some better trinkets for the Old Plague Doc thanks.

[h0b0king]

I think the Vestal in that Swine boss is just excessive. I do enjoy the Leper's intimidate though, especially combined with a berserk mask Hew crit or two.

I've never found Wilbur's alone that bad, he does very little damage, but presumably one could chug a mess of holy water prior to the Prince/King/God's death and that would help with this alleged Stunlock issue.

[Curious Fox]

Originally posted by Lujo:

Yep, Plague Doc just trivializes the whole encounter.

But as Xlomblie_Wheizard pointed out, getting left alone with Wilbur can cause a party wipe. I think what you're supposed to do then, if possible, is turn on riposte on the MAA you brought along to guard any guys who were marked.

Just don't activate riposte while the big guy is still alive, or you're in for trouble.

Although I'm not sure if big guy's stun resistance goes up, because if it doesn't PD can still hold him down somewhat well even after he goes nuts over you dinging wilbur behind the ear.

Another thing, just MAA's riposite will not trigger the prince. However... if he kills wilbur you're dead meat.