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dan83m Jun 9, 2017 @ 2:04am
How do u use abomination in combat
for most of the time i dont use him, cause he stress his comrades
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Paranoia Jun 9, 2017 @ 2:07am 
Twoways:

Either never change forms and just Stun-flail or spit in the enemy's general direction, superhealing whenever necessary.
Or Transform from the first two rows and Rake away.
Or just be on the second spot and do whichever is better.

Double Transformed Abomination eats Brigand Pounder alive. Rakerakerakerake...
dan83m Jun 9, 2017 @ 2:15am 
yeah ok but with no stress healer in the party is a pain
FreyaMaluk Jun 9, 2017 @ 2:17am 
bring a jester or a doggo and you'll be fine
Last edited by FreyaMaluk; Jun 9, 2017 @ 2:17am
Paranoia Jun 9, 2017 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by dan83m:
yeah ok but with no stress healer in the party is a pain

Well, not if the Abom never transforms.
And he mainly causes Stress on himself over time, and that he can heal.
figbyfigbyfigby Jun 9, 2017 @ 3:48am 
Human ♥♥♥ bring a lot of utility with stun and blight, and deals some fair bit of damage at fast speed too, no need to transform him every fight and stress the crap out of your team, transform only when big hits are needed to avoid things going south, or to speed up fight that might be more dangerous if prolonged too much (slimes comes in mind). Also remember, the very rare lockpad that reduce stress dealt when transforming seems good, but if you learn how and when to use the transformation it becomes a wasted trinket slot, better gear him with more damage, stun chance or even PROT.
Timus Jun 9, 2017 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by dan83m:
for most of the time i dont use him, cause he stress his comrades
The stress he causes isn't that big of a deal. Either you use the Restraining Padlock to mitigate the stress (not really necessary in my opinion) or you have a stress healer, which is generally a good idea.

I use him a lot, often 2 or even 3 in one party. In the front rows he is a fast, solid, and reliable damage dealer, in the middle rows a great stunner and blighter (use Padlock of Transference). And he can self-heal, stress and hp, which makes him a tank imho. I killed the Vvulf with an Abomination and the party had almost zero stress at the end of the fight. Also all the Swine-bosses (Prince, King, God) with Arb + Hm + Hm + Abom almost without taking any damage from the boss (only a bit from Wilbur). And you can rake the Pounders away like butter.
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Faelivri Jun 9, 2017 @ 6:12am 
Keep transform as the last resort. Stun, stun and stun again with blight from time to time. Use him mostly in Cove but he is fine in Ruins too.
Last edited by Faelivri; Jun 9, 2017 @ 6:13am
FreyaMaluk Jun 9, 2017 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by Timus:
Originally posted by dan83m:
for most of the time i dont use him, cause he stress his comrades
The stress he causes isn't that big of a deal. Either you use the Restraining Padlock to mitigate the stress (not really necessary in my opinion) or you have a stress healer, which is generally a good idea.

I use him a lot, often 2 or even 3 in one party. In the front rows he is a fast, solid, and reliable damage dealer, in the middle rows a great stunner and blighter (use Padlock of Transference). And he can self-heal, stress and hp, which makes him a tank imho. I killed the Vvulf with an Abomination and the party had almost zero stress at the end of the fight. Also all the Swine-bosses (Prince, King, God) with Arb + Hm + Hm + Abom almost without taking any damage from the boss (only a bit from Wilbur). And you can rake the Pounders away like butter.

that depends.. if you do dark runs you'll probably not gonna have one ♥♥♥ in your roster without a tester or doggo... and even so the stress dmg in the dark is insane (pun intended)
Bouncer Jun 9, 2017 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by Faelivri:
Keep transform as the last resort. Stun, stun and stun again with blight from time to time. Use him mostly in Cove but he is fine in Ruins too.

Same here. He doesn't need to transform to be useful. Transform is only for when in a pinch. And even then the stress is manageable for the very few times you do need it.
Panfilo Jun 9, 2017 @ 7:35am 
Transformation: Turning into Beast form gives you bonus damage. Yeah it causes stress across the board as well, so choose carefully when you are going to go into beast mode. Note that critical hits cause stress heals, as well as killing a target. So killing something with a critical hit can help mitigate the stress generated in transforming. Transforming back to human heals him, but also slows him down. However, at rank 5 he is no longer slowed by turning back into a human, so it becomes even better. Note that transforming doesn't actually use up an action; you can transform and use another ability in the same round. This is very unique to the Abomination; nobody else can do something like this.

Manacles: A stun that comes with a decent amount of damage attached. You can build him as a stunner or for damage, either one helps this ability. Because you can't use it in the very front, it is prudent to keep the Abomination in the 2nd or 3rd position.

Beast's Bile: Blights the two middle enemies, but does no damage. The lack of front-loaded damage can seem unappealing, but this ability has another unique property- it is one of the only non-damage based skills that can CRIT in spite of doing no damage. This is significant because critting with Beast's Bile stretches the duration out to 5 rounds, and stress heals the Abomination.

Absolution: Heals and Stress Heals the Abomination. This is one of his best abilities, and one of the best abilities in the game. If the party's stress is high you can use this in moments of opportunity to bring him back to fighting shape. When in beast mode, you can turn back human and use Absolution, effectively getting two heals in a single round. Because of this, trinkets that improve healing or healing received benefit the Abomination. Also note that heals can also crit which gives him even MORE of a stress heal.

Rage: His normal Beast mode melee attack. Nothing too special here, useful for hitting the third row. Because the Abomination can be strong when tuned for damage, it can hit quite hard in the right situation.

Slam: Moves him forward and tries to knock the target back, and also debuffs them. Not quite as useful as the Man at Arm's equivalent ability, I mainly use it to get the Abomination back into position.

Rake: The best ability he has in Beast mode, in my opinion. It is similar to the Leper's Hew, except more accurate and gets bonus damage on itself each time you use it. Because of this, it is most useful to spam it repeatedly. This makes it nice in boss fights like the Brigand cannon or Sunken Crew, where you may be repeatedly attacking adds.

Beast's Blood: A camping skill that boosts his resistances. Nothing special here.

Anger Management: Stresses the Abomination while stress healing his allies. This can help mitigate the stress generated by transforming too often. It is especially useful if the Abomination has a lot of stress resist from quirks, trinkets, etc. If you use it, consider either using an ally's stress resist camp ability before using Anger Management, or consider using single target camp stress heals on the Abomination after using it.

Quickening: Gives you bonus speed for 4 battles, very useful because being able to consistently go first with the Abomination gives you a ton of initiative as far as deciding what you want to do.

Psych Up: Gives you bonus damage for 4 battles, but also stresses the Abomination out. A worthwhile trade in my opinion because you can crank up his damage hilariously high.
Timus Jun 9, 2017 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by FreyaMaluk:
that depends.. if you do dark runs you'll probably not gonna have one ♥♥♥ in your roster without a tester or doggo... and even so the stress dmg in the dark is insane (pun intended)
Nice pun :)) and no disagreement:
Originally posted by Timus:
... Either you use the Restraining Padlock to mitigate the stress (not really necessary in my opinion) or you have a stress healer, which is generally a good idea. ...
That's why I almost always combine Aboms with Hm.
Last edited by Timus; Jun 9, 2017 @ 8:12am
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