Vestal OP?

[nicknack595]

Seems like the vestal is the only viable healer. Although the vestal doesn't do much else I just feel like it's a shame there aren't many other options in terms of healers. Sure there is the occultist who is more flexible but that's about it. Do I need to broaden my horizons or are there just no better alternatives?

[TheBoredGal]

The Vestal and the Occultist are the only two viable healers, but there are backup healers like the crusader and arbalist but thats about it, fotunetly many heros have a powerful selfheal and I tend to use them alot.

[Paranoia]

I prefer Occultist. He actually does stuff other than heal.

[nicknack595]

Originally posted by TheBoredGuy733:

The Vestal and the Occultist are the only two viable healers, but there are backup healers like the crusader and arbalist but thats about it, fotunetly many heros have a powerful selfheal and I tend to use them alot.

True true. I've been trying the arablist with the medics gauntlents and the healing head, It's pretty good for getting a big heal off a character, mainly because of the +heal effectiveness buff.

[ShunTheWitch]

I hate that the vestal is the only dedicated healer that can be in the second position (even counting mods as far as I know) and since they refuse to party with aboms and other things of the sort (like the chosen cultists) it limits certain party comps I want to try that would require the healer to be in the second position so I can have someone in the back line while the jester is in the third. (and the all heal is effective particularly with the profane scrolls is so damn strong.

[nicknack595]

Originally posted by Shun The Witch:

I hate that the vestal is the only dedicated healer that can be in the second position (even counting mods as far as I know) and since they refuse to party with aboms and other things of the sort (like the chosen cultists) it limits certain party comps I want to try that would require the healer to be in the second position so I can have someone in the back line while the jester is in the third. (and the all heal is effective particularly with the profane scrolls is so damn strong.

Never tried vestal in position 2. Any good? Always thought when using vestal I may as well play to her strengths and place her in one of the back two positions. But yeah it is limiting unless you want to go for some kind of alternative way of healing.

[Timus]

You don't necessarily need dedicated healers, even in champion level quests. I use Abominations and Houndmasters a lot — they can heal themselves. Combine them the with backup healers like Arbalests (great choice) and/or Antiquarians (there are good healing boosting trinkets for both of them — Medic’s Greaves and Candle of Life), just in case.

[Panfilo]

I would argue the Vestal is powerful, for a combination of things:

-She has the most reliable single target heal in the game, healing more minimum HP than anyone else making her consistent in topping off heroes.

-She has the only AoE heal, which is super useful as she is the only hero that can pull multiple heroes off deaths door.

-She also has the only lifesteal attack in the game which is handy for finishing off enemies and recovering HP at the same time.

-You also get access to a decent stun, very useful in a support role.

For a dedicated healer she's also fairly durable. She has a lot of traits that make for a consistent support with no glaring weaknesses holding her back.

[Enfild]

Originally posted by nicknack595:

Originally posted by Shun The Witch:

I hate that the vestal is the only dedicated healer that can be in the second position (even counting mods as far as I know) and since they refuse to party with aboms and other things of the sort (like the chosen cultists) it limits certain party comps I want to try that would require the healer to be in the second position so I can have someone in the back line while the jester is in the third. (and the all heal is effective particularly with the profane scrolls is so damn strong.

Never tried vestal in position 2. Any good? Always thought when using vestal I may as well play to her strengths and place her in one of the back two positions. But yeah it is limiting unless you want to go for some kind of alternative way of healing.

If sertain conditions are met. If she has profane scroll + sun ring + prot quirk she can be really decent frontline unit, with party-wide heal and with good survivability and damage. Still, secondary healler will help, like crusader, arbalest, or you can bring occ in pos 3. It is fun party, but vestal should stay in position to be effective, because scroll only works in pos 2.

[ShunTheWitch]

Originally posted by Enfild:

Originally posted by nicknack595:

Never tried vestal in position 2. Any good? Always thought when using vestal I may as well play to her strengths and place her in one of the back two positions. But yeah it is limiting unless you want to go for some kind of alternative way of healing.

If sertain conditions are met. If she has profane scroll + sun ring + prot quirk she can be really decent frontline unit, with party-wide heal and with good survivability and damage. Still, secondary healler will help, like crusader, arbalest, or you can bring occ in pos 3. It is fun party, but vestal should stay in position to be effective, because scroll only works in pos 2.

Its rather effective, Hell even with just profane and a healing trinket like the head she makes a good party healer with great damage debuffs, its a little too effective almost.

[Enfild]

Originally posted by Shun The Witch:

Originally posted by Enfild:

If sertain conditions are met. If she has profane scroll + sun ring + prot quirk she can be really decent frontline unit, with party-wide heal and with good survivability and damage. Still, secondary healler will help, like crusader, arbalest, or you can bring occ in pos 3. It is fun party, but vestal should stay in position to be effective, because scroll only works in pos 2.

Its rather effective, Hell even with just profane and a healing trinket like the head she makes a good party healer with great damage debuffs, its a little too effective almost.

Well, she has problems with accuracy, so sun ring is good here, even though i normally dont use them.

[Spiegel]

As a healer, yep, kinda OP with healer trinkets and lvl 4+ skills, but hey - it's her class speciality. Occ is funnier and makes dmg output much better, so you don't need to heal that often.

[Dies Horribly]

Position 2 Vestals enjoy being able to brutally debuff enemies, still have Divine Comfort for AoE heals, and the frontline attacks have usable damage. I use my Vestals in that position pretty often and they get things done.

Profane Scroll is a must, of course.

Of course, if you're running a Vestal for heals specifically, the backline heal and stun Vestal setup is ideal.

[Regrettable Acts in 1 Step]

Originally posted by Paranoia:

I prefer Occultist. He actually does stuff other than heal.

How do you heal with the bleed though?
It's like everythime he uses his Wyrd Reconstruction, he also forces them to Reconstruct their period as well.

[Paranoia]

Originally posted by Skye:

How do you heal with the bleed though?
It's like everythime he uses his Wyrd Reconstruction, he also forces them to Reconstruct their period as well.

His Bleed chances are so low that he is no threath to anyone beyond Resolve 2, and, while less reliable, Wyrd Reconstruction heals more on average than a Vestal does.

[Regrettable Acts in 1 Step]

Originally posted by Paranoia:

Originally posted by Skye:

How do you heal with the bleed though?
It's like everythime he uses his Wyrd Reconstruction, he also forces them to Reconstruct their period as well.

His Bleed chances are so low that he is no threath to anyone beyond Resolve 2, and, while less reliable, Wyrd Reconstruction heals more on average than a Vestal does.

I must be really bad with rolls though, cause i kept getting 1 - 3 on level 5