Sirens

[ohbitchuary]

Is anybody else sad that there will be no playable siren characters? On my first playthroughs I always played as a Siren, first as Lilith then as Maya. So naturally I am sad, to say the least, that there seems to be no playable siren character in the pre-sequel. I was hoping angel would be playable, I can always hope for DLC. Who else is with me on this one?

[Karakasa]

I rather wait for a Siren in 3 personally. We know Jack knew of 3 sirens by BL2 time, and being that the only one who would be playable for this game is probably locked up even before being hooked up...yeah.

That said, I'm still hoping that the next one has an explode punch thing for some reason.

[ARteZ]

Originally posted by KarakasaSurprise:

I rather wait for a Siren in 3 personally. We know Jack knew of 3 sirens by BL2 time, and being that the only one who would be playable for this game is probably locked up even before being hooked up...yeah.

That said, I'm still hoping that the next one has an explode punch thing for some reason.

There are 6 sirens in the borderlands universe
1st - Lilith
2nd - Maya
3rd - Angel
others are unknown by now

[Tricky]

Originally posted by ARteZ:

Originally posted by KarakasaSurprise:

I rather wait for a Siren in 3 personally. We know Jack knew of 3 sirens by BL2 time, and being that the only one who would be playable for this game is probably locked up even before being hooked up...yeah.

That said, I'm still hoping that the next one has an explode punch thing for some reason.

There are 6 sirens in the borderlands universe
1st - Lilith
2nd - Maya
3rd - Angel
others are unknown by now

Commandant Steele was another, but she died in BL1

[Karakasa]

I said Jack knew of 3, I know there are 6. But unless Angel was made playable, there can't be a playable Siren for this game, or any new one unless they ALSO die in this game.

[MorningLightMountain]

Originally posted by Seeder:

Originally posted by ASG ♪Discord♪:

Commandant Steele was another, but she died in BL1

Well this game is before borderlands 1 so she can be the next siren.

It's set between Borderlands 1 & 2.

[ohbitchuary]

Well commandant steele died, so she no longer counts. So by BL2 the ones we know jack knows are Lilith, Angel and another unknown siren. That could have been a playable character in my opinion.

I think Jack says that there can only be 6 at one time, so does that mean that like in the last airbender, when one dies another is born?

[Tricky]

Originally posted by ohbitchuary:

Well commandant steele died, so she no longer counts. So by BL2 the ones we know jack knows are Lilith, Angel and another unknown siren. That could have been a playable character in my opinion.

I think Jack says that there can only be 6 at one time, so does that mean that like in the last airbender, when one dies another is born?

Actually yes, according to a comic, I believe.

[Beelzebubnov]

In fact, the sirens shouldn't be in Pre-Sequel, but I hope that they will be in Borderlands 3.
I always played as the Siren, too

[Charon]

Since we know the characters in the pre-sequel we can safely say that, no, none of them is a Siren.

Also, five Sirens have been established in canon, three of which are still alive during the presequel (Lilith, Maya and Angel) and two who might have been replaced by then newly born ones: Steele and an old Siren that comes to Lilith when the Firehawk is a child. Lilith was young enough when that happened that Maya or Angel might have been the one born as the old Siren died, which would give us a total of two possible Sirens we know nothing about plus one baby born when Steele died.

[Charon]

Originally posted by ohbitchuary:

Well commandant steele died, so she no longer counts. So by BL2 the ones we know jack knows are Lilith, Angel and another unknown siren. That could have been a playable character in my opinion.

Jack knew about Maya, as per the ECHO recordings about her past. That makes three.

[Witch of Diamonds]

Maya was my absolute favourite in BL2, but I think it's something of a nice break to get a cast list without one. Still, come BL3 I'll be right back aboard the Magical Girl train I'll tell you right now.

[Space is the Place]

Just to clarify, Borderlands 2 writer makes a big mistake by making Jack say "I know three sirens" that would be false, he knows 4, just like the player: Lilith, Maya, Steele and Angel.

Now, onto the topic: I may don´t want a siren, but MAYBE it would be interesting to see an artificial male siren (in the lore only womans can be sirens), a test subject that Hyperion has been filling with eridium on several process, but eventually just die out of eridium exposure and by the time Borderlands 2 arrives he´s suppose to be already death.

This would allow for the class to be present in the game, while not necessary adding a new siren or contradicting the lore.

[MorningLightMountain]

Originally posted by Space is the Place:

Just to clarify, Borderlands 2 writer makes a big mistake by making Jack say "I know three sirens" that would be false, he knows 4, just like the player: Lilith, Maya, Steele and Angel.

Now, onto the topic: I may don´t want a siren, but MAYBE it would be interesting to see an artificial male siren (in the lore only womans can be sirens), a test subject that Hyperion has been filling with eridium on several process, but eventually just die out of eridium exposure and by the time Borderlands 2 arrives he´s suppose to be already death.

This would allow for the class to be present in the game, while not necessary adding a new siren or contradicting the lore.

Strictly speaking it's not an error. Steele is dead by that point. He knows about the three active known Sirens.

[Space is the Place]

Originally posted by MorningLightMountain:

Strictly speaking it's not an error. Steele is dead by that point. He knows about the three active known Sirens.

My friend...Angel. Angel knew about commandant steele, Angel was been controlled every single time by Jack, there´s even some echo recordings of Jack telling Angel the same lines she says the player at the begging of the first game. There´s a not a single step the original Vault Hunters did make that Angel was not aware, and therefor, Jack. The whole Borderlands 1 plot is in fact nothing but a lie of Handsome Jack to obtain Eridium from The Destroyer´s Vault. Jack not knowing who Stelle is is very unlikely, impossible may I even say. Heck, the whole ECHOnet was hacked by Angel by order of Jack, he may have even heard Steele´s messages to the Vault Hunters.

No, Jack knew 4 sirens so far that we know of. Maybe he says "I know 3" in the message because he was not counting Steele as she was dead and therefor that Siren "spot" in the universe was now another new born child and he didn´t know who was, or maybe the message was recorder prior to him knowing about Maya (he deffinitelly wants sirens and in Maya´s backstory recordings the moment he knows about her he want Angel to do anything she can to bring her to Pandora). SO, there may be a reason for him to say 3 other than 4 without being the writers mistake, but Jack not knowing Steele is not one of them.

[World's best Fox]

maybe if we close our eyes and dream had enough. claptrap will be a siren