Just started the game.. Tips on Jack?

[BlacKy #SlavaIsraelini]

So i've just started this game with a friend for the first time and i need tips on which skills to go with as Jack's doppleganger. So far his action skill is pretty good and acts like Axton's turret.

Any tips on which on which skills to use? I'm like lvl 5 and went with Integrity.
http://thepresequel.com/Jack/00000000000002000000000000000000000000

[Recursion]

hmmmm, I think you might want to consider ranged weapons, since you have your doppelganger with you. I upgraded my doppelganger really hard and stuck to sniper rifles, you have no idea how easy the game was for me. Definetely consider the stratedgy.

[Swanner]

me n a buddy are about to play our first playthrough.. hit me up

[BlacKy #SlavaIsraelini]

Originally posted by V.I.P🎃Moodyman2275🎃:

hmmmm, I think you might want to consider ranged weapons, since you have your doppelganger with you. I upgraded my doppelganger really hard and stuck to sniper rifles, you have no idea how easy the game was for me. Definetely consider the stratedgy.

Thanks but i was talking more about which skill path to go with.

Originally posted by ca$his:

me n a buddy are about to play our first playthrough.. hit me up

No thanks im only playing with my friend so we'll stick at the same level.

[SlackerBoe]

It really depends if on whqt you're looking for. TPS features a soft-scaled UVHM this time around so there's a lot of different viable end game combinations.

Green is going to help power up your Jack's for longer and keep them alive. This is dfinitly fun for mobbing, but terrible for bosses.

Blue is going to give you quicker dieing Jack's that are very useful to spam shock nova's and trigger kill skill. IT's capstone (leadership) makes your Jack's dieing count as kill as well and is pretty much a staple of the class.

Red is going to give you etxra power, but you have to jump through very specfic hoops to get it. So far I've tried G/B no red and b/r with only best foot foreward from green. Both we're able to easily beact the game at level 60+ B/Rwith bestt foot foreward deifinitly kills faster though.

[Recursion]

Oh, for skills, stay away from the red skill tree, it sucks. I would invest most points inside the green and blue skill trees, because the red doesnt really offer anything game changing except a wrist laser. Thats from my experience, but try out the red skill tree if your curious.

[BlacKy #SlavaIsraelini]

Well i looked at the red and blue trees and i think this is what i will go down for the first 24 levels:
http://thepresequel.com/Jack/00000000000005051004104101000000000000

[Ichthyic]

"Oh, for skills, stay away from the red skill tree, it sucks."

unless, of course, you want to triple your damage output, then it's great.

none of Jack's skill trees are bad.

in normal mode, the doppleganger tree is just fine to focus on until you hit at least level 30. after that, you might decide you want a more powerful jack, in which case, you will want to examine the other two trees.

I built a pure hyperion jack that did MASSIVE damage with his tri-laser, no problems taking down the final boss basically as soon as his "heads" finished spawning, meaning I killed him faster than the animations could spawn the next phase in.

Jack is also a madman with grenades, you can make a truly legit grenade build with him. BUT... what's more... you can use grenades to reload your other weapons (weird, yes), which makes him an absolute beast with glitched weapons... when you get that far into the game.

Jack of all trades indeed. I think he might be the single most well rounded character in any of the borderlands games.

oh, and DO put a point into inspiration... it does nothing statistically, but you'll get a kick out of it for a while.

[BlacKy #SlavaIsraelini]

Ok thanks.
Btw is the badass digijack skillcap worths it (on normal mode)?

[Ichthyic]

it really depends on how you fight. If you like to hunker down and fight from a defensive postion... yeah, your badass will rock the house. massive damage to multiple targets. very useful against mobs.

if you are a run-and-gun type, always moving fast and large distances, your jacks will constantly respawn as you move, and the baddass skill is no longer as valuable.

then you want jacks that do things like shocwave on spawn, explode when die, etc.

I'm more of the slow mover, high firepower kinda guy, so I got a lot of use out of badasses.

on the higher difficulties though... like UVHM, you probably will want to go run and gun and focus more on your jacks as distractions and sources for kill skills (meaning the middle tree).

but in the normal game... I had a ton of fun with baddasses. they not only kill well, they make fun comments too.

they will make arena style combat sooooo easy for you. you can just hang out inside an air filled building, blowing away anyone who comes through the door, while your jacks take care of anyone outside.

easiest time I ever had with any of the arena style fights in any of the borderland series.

I find the jacks to be much more verasatile and useful than even gaige's sidekicks were in BL2.

[BlacKy #SlavaIsraelini]

Thanks!

[Ichthyic]

for when you get to the point where you get glitch guns (way late in normal, or before you start UVHM mode), check out the glitch-gun build for Jack. It might be the most powerful build there is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwPmm0ZiBZY

but again, that's a very late game build, since you won't really have ready access to glitch weapons until you can at least survive the early parts of the DLC, which IIRC is level 40?

[BlacKy #SlavaIsraelini]

Sadly i wont be able to play this game commonly so talking about uvhm is irrelevant to me. I heared about those glitch weapons tho..
I prefer to learn the game on my own now, just wanted a few tips on good skills. Also for your question earlier, since im playing it for the first time, it'll be a slow exploration rather than 'running and gunning'. Perhaps i should respec into the Hero tree then.

[SlackerBoe]

http://thepresequel.com/Jack/50000000000001550005015151050515005051

That's my jack right now. The site doesn't have the holdome legendary class mods though, so I can't put it on there. It's boosting company man to 9/5 for a +18% crtical hit damage/piece of hyperion gear equiped. It's boosting optimism to 5/5 to help make the jacks cie even faster and trigger collaberation's max damage boost asap. It's also boosting winning as well, so I get 45% shield restoration and 32% movement speed.