Cheat Code

[Nauzhror]

So, exactly how rare are the elemental versons of this weapon? I've been reloading over and over trying to get a electric or fire version of it for Athena. The wiki says it can spawn with all elements other than explosive, bu thus far I've had it be corrosive twice and non elemental well over a dozen tries.

[Nakos]

Couldn't tell you. Given that it has a "normal" (non-elemental) version, I would assume that was the most common. The Elemental versions of other, similar guns (like the B!tch) are fairly rare.

If I had to guess, I'd assume that the rarity of the elemetal versions would probably be similar, but ... that's just a guess.

http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Cheat_Code

[Nauzhror]

So far seen 1 cryo, 3 corrosive, dozens of non-elemental. Been reloading trying because I imagine it's probably the best SMG I can get as Athena if I get electric version (I'd probably settle for fire at this point though), just seems absurd that it's so ungodly rare.

EDIT: As soon as I say I'd settle for a fire one about now I get a electric one.

[Nakos]

Congrats.

Yeah, Shock would definitely be my first choice for Athena. With a Melee attachement.

[Nauzhror]

Hmm, calculated damage. Actually looks like my Purple Level 52 Vladof pistol does more damage than a level 55 Cheat Code.

Awkward. Oh well, needed two good lightning weapons to swap between for Storm Weaving. Should make EOS farming faster. I was using a lightning laser, but the pistol does 16.5% more damage than the cheat code, whereas it did 38.9% more damage than the laser I was using so still a big improvement.

I think I'm calculating damage right anyway.

Pistol shows:

Damage: 2115x2
Accuracy: 81.2
Fire Rate: 6.2
Reload: 2.2
Magazine Size: 38
Shock Damage / sec. 1136.3
Electrocute Damage: 12.0%

Cheat Code:
Damage: 2145
Accuracy: 95.8
Fire Rate: 8.7
Reload: 2.3
Magazine Size: 29
Shock Damage / sec. 1512.5
Electrocute Damage: 10.0%

I calculated Pistol like:

.12 * 1136.3 * 2 = 136+2115=2251*2=4502

4502*6.2=27,912 "fake dps".

Then taking its magazine size and dividing it by 2 as it fires 2 bullets per shot to get 19.

19/6.2=3.1 seconds to empty the clip

2.2 to reload it

3.1/(3.1+2.2)=.5849 ie. the gun is potentially firing bullets 58.49% of the time, so multiply its fake dps by .5849 to get 16,326, and then multiply that by .812 to factor in accuracy.

I think that's the best way to determine relative dps between weapons? I have a spreadsheet setup, except it also multiplies damage per shot by 1.18, fire rate by 1.24, multiplies clip size by 1.8, and divides the reload speed by 1.5 to factor in the stat boosts I have on athena.

The prt that might be wrong I think is the calculation for the lightning portion of the damage.

As far as I was able to find online:

Cryo DOTs last for 8 seconds
Ice DOTS last for 6 seconds
Fire DOTS last for 5 seconds
Lightning DOTs last for 2 seconds

Hence the:

.12 * 1136.3 * 2 = 136+2115=2251*2=4502

calculation early on

If anyone knows if any of those durations are wrong though I'd very much appreciate them correcting me.

[Nakos]

Enhh... I usually go to the firing range (on Deck 13 and 1/2) and shoot off a few clips, if I like the way a gun feels in the firing range, I'll take it out to the field and try it on a favorite run or two and see how it preforms there.

Not very scientific I'm afraid.