How to use Claptrap?

[⚡DooM⚡]

How do you control his VaultHunter.exe action skill? Every time someone comes into my lobby using Claptrap, they end up getting me killed because their action skill ability either bounces me all over the place, messes up my skills like my baroness sniper stacks, or just completely destroys my accuracy with gunzerking/mechromancing. Is there something in his skill trees that allow him to better gain control over his action skill? Otherwise I'm just not going to allow a single Claptrap in my lobbies at all and just kick the ♥♥♥♥♥. It's really annoying.

[Haze_Ventura]

Nope it is random. So hf with kicking all those claptraps

i love claptrap, i f****d up a friends game with this char, he had the baroness too

[⚡DooM⚡]

Originally posted by Haze_Ventura:

Nope it is random. So hf with kicking all those claptraps :meadowfrog:

i love claptrap, i f****d up a friends game with this char, he had the baroness too

Guess I will. Must be the worst playable character in any Borderlands game. No Claptraps allowed in my lobbies unless they never use their action skill. Lol

[bones]

That's kind of the whole point of the character. Claps pretty good by end game though.

[⚡DooM⚡]

Originally posted by Some Good Lovin:

That's kind of the whole point of the character. Claps pretty good by end game though.

A pointless character to have. It's supposed to be a team character to heal the team but many other chars do a better job and more. His action skill is useless. I can bet that I'm not the first person to kick Claptrap characters from their lobby on sight.

[Dr. Cheech]

It would probably be a little better if you weren't using Aurelia's sniper tree. I personally enjoy playing him because of his randomness(and I like shooting stuff with cannons in time with the 1811 Overture). That said, I'd be sure to use someone else in your lobby. lol

[⚡DooM⚡]

Originally posted by Dr. Cheech:

It would probably be a little better if you weren't using Aurelia's sniper tree. I personally enjoy playing him because of his randomness(and I like shooting stuff with cannons in time with the 1811 Overture). That said, I'd be sure to use someone else in your lobby. lol

Claptrap is a char that doesn't translate well to coop at all and yet his character was made exclusively for coop... so yeah, he is a wasted char. I'd rather have someone sitting afk in my lobby than have a player slot occupied by a Claptrap ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ any of my chars up. When someone using Claptrap uses their ability, they are at least prepared for the outcome by pressing the Action Skill key. The other players in the lobby are not however and regardless of skills or their class, its going to mess them up in one way or another.

[Dr. Cheech]

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Originally posted by Dr. Cheech:

It would probably be a little better if you weren't using Aurelia's sniper tree. I personally enjoy playing him because of his randomness(and I like shooting stuff with cannons in time with the 1811 Overture). That said, I'd be sure to use someone else in your lobby. lol

Claptrap is a char that doesn't translate well to coop at all and yet his character was made exclusively for coop... so yeah, he is a wasted char. I'd rather have someone sitting afk in my lobby than have a player slot occupied by a Claptrap ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ any of my chars up. When someone using Claptrap uses their ability, they are at least prepared for the outcome by pressing the Action Skill key. The other players in the lobby are not however and regardless of skills or their class, its going to mess them up in one way or another.

Aurelia is the only one truly affected by Claptrap since her sniper tree is wholey dependent on aim. The only players I've experienced who get mad at Claptrap in co-op(outside of sniper Aurelia) are the ones who like to cuss people out for not doing perfect in multiplayer games(sometimes called tryhards, but just angry is more accurate) and people who don't want to risk playing with him because they lack the skill. You have a reason, but he is a good character if you're not just tryharding the game and actually want a bit of sporadic fun.

Keep in mind I'm saying this is my experience. He's definitely not a character for everybody, but he can be fun nonetheless.

[⚡DooM⚡]

Originally posted by Dr. Cheech:

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Claptrap is a char that doesn't translate well to coop at all and yet his character was made exclusively for coop... so yeah, he is a wasted char. I'd rather have someone sitting afk in my lobby than have a player slot occupied by a Claptrap ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ any of my chars up. When someone using Claptrap uses their ability, they are at least prepared for the outcome by pressing the Action Skill key. The other players in the lobby are not however and regardless of skills or their class, its going to mess them up in one way or another.

Aurelia is the only one truly affected by Claptrap since her sniper tree is wholey dependent on aim. The only players I've experienced who get mad at Claptrap in co-op(outside of sniper Aurelia) are the ones who like to cuss people out for not doing perfect in multiplayer games(sometimes called tryhards, but just angry is more accurate) and people who don't want to risk playing with him because they lack the skill. You have a reason, but he is a good character if you're not just tryharding the game and actually want a bit of sporadic fun.

Keep in mind I'm saying this is my experience. He's definitely not a character for everybody, but he can be fun nonetheless.

I've had his bouncing skill throw me into deathpits, his gunzerking skill kill my accuracy on a gun in last stand and get me killed because I wasn't able to tap fire a shot, one of his grenade abilities kill both me and another player while killing himself, and the suicide bomb ability that kills teammates. You are an idiot for insulting people over an obvious problem with Claptrap being in lobbies. Lack the skill my ass dude. Come into my lobby and I'll make every enemy in game spawn as a badass 10 levels above you and we will see how much skill you lack for something out of your control.

Yeah, he is definitely not a character for everyone. He is a character for a single person and no more.

[Dr. Cheech]

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Originally posted by Dr. Cheech:

Aurelia is the only one truly affected by Claptrap since her sniper tree is wholey dependent on aim. The only players I've experienced who get mad at Claptrap in co-op(outside of sniper Aurelia) are the ones who like to cuss people out for not doing perfect in multiplayer games(sometimes called tryhards, but just angry is more accurate) and people who don't want to risk playing with him because they lack the skill. You have a reason, but he is a good character if you're not just tryharding the game and actually want a bit of sporadic fun.

Keep in mind I'm saying this is my experience. He's definitely not a character for everybody, but he can be fun nonetheless.

I've had his bouncing skill throw me into deathpits, his gunzerking skill kill my accuracy on a gun in last stand and get me killed because I wasn't able to tap fire a shot, one of his grenade abilities kill both me and another player while killing himself, and the suicide bomb ability that kills teammates. You are an idiot for insulting people over an obvious problem with Claptrap being in lobbies. Lack the skill my ass dude. Come into my lobby and I'll make every enemy in game spawn as a badass 10 levels above you and we will see how much skill you lack for something out of your control.

Yeah, he is definitely not a character for everyone. He is a character for a single person and no more.

I was saying you weren't amongst those people because I had a feeling this was your experience. You sound like you've had ♥♥♥♥♥♥ claptrap players. Especially since he used his action skill instead of reviving you, aimed grenades at you and all the other crap poor team players do. I'm well aware how much a bad team player playing as claptrap can be(I distance myself from those people).

But yeah, I wouldn't join you or anyone else with claptrap unless you specifically said I could. On a side note, the suicide bomb(clap in the box) is a garbage skill and I would highly recommend kicking those players right off the bat since it's fairly useless(but it doesn't friendly fire without cheat engine or something equivalent).

[⚡DooM⚡]

Originally posted by Dr. Cheech:

I was saying you weren't amongst those people because I had a feeling this was your experience. You sound like you've had ♥♥♥♥♥♥ claptrap players. Especially since he used his action skill instead of reviving you, aimed grenades at you and all the other crap poor team players do. I'm well aware how much a bad team player playing as claptrap can be(I distance myself from those people).

But yeah, I wouldn't join you or anyone else with claptrap unless you specifically said I could. On a side note, the suicide bomb(clap in the box) is a garbage skill and I would highly recommend kicking those players right off the bat since it's fairly useless(but it doesn't friendly fire without cheat engine or something equivalent).

One of the players I played with was on my friends list and I was cool with playing with him just because. He didn't really know himself, nor did I. He used his action skill next to me and both me and the enemy died. I was like did your skill just kill me? He knew that the skills from Claptrap were annoying me but I delt with it. The only action packages he had that I actually liked were the rate of fire ones as well as the melee, in which I was on Athena with melee abilities.

I had a random in normal mode who had a class mod for cooldown and +3 for his skill for even more cooldown. It was a nightmare and I just kicked him without saying a word. It was constant gunzerking after gunzerking and it really pissed me off big time... Any character I play, I like to conserve as much ammo as I can. I'm not a fan of seeing my ammo count go below half so I take as many crit shots as possible. Just the way I play but hell it has always worked for me in Borderlands games. I like full control over my character at all times. Even playing as Claptrap in single player myself, I don't like using his ability. It's just too random. If there was a skill down one of his trees that gave him control over what he could pick then I wouldn't have much problem but that's not the case. Playing Claptrap is like playing Russian Roulette with 5/6 bullets in the chamber.

[bones]

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Originally posted by Some Good Lovin:

That's kind of the whole point of the character. Claps pretty good by end game though.

A pointless character to have. It's supposed to be a team character to heal the team but many other chars do a better job and more. His action skill is useless. I can bet that I'm not the first person to kick Claptrap characters from their lobby on sight.

Not even that. With the writing throughout the Borderlands franchise being a comedy and how each generation of Vault Hunters interact with each other is on sitcom tv level status. Not only that, but in every iteration, THAT is Claptrap. The wild card who'll accidentally dispense a secret stash of grenades they didn't know about and blow everyone up(which is a skill you acquire). That's Claptrap. The character in the sitcom who is lovable, accident prone and the butt of everyone's joking and abuse.

The Devs just didn't realize that players would hate that about him. That being said, his action skill isn't useless in later levels as you unlock more options for the skill to randomly choose from. He's a pretty good character overall imo. Just don't let him into the boss room if they're going to use their action skill.

[bones]

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Originally posted by Dr. Cheech:

It would probably be a little better if you weren't using Aurelia's sniper tree. I personally enjoy playing him because of his randomness(and I like shooting stuff with cannons in time with the 1811 Overture). That said, I'd be sure to use someone else in your lobby. lol

Claptrap is a char that doesn't translate well to coop at all and yet his character was made exclusively for coop... so yeah, he is a wasted char. I'd rather have someone sitting afk in my lobby than have a player slot occupied by a Claptrap ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ any of my chars up. When someone using Claptrap uses their ability, they are at least prepared for the outcome by pressing the Action Skill key. The other players in the lobby are not however and regardless of skills or their class, its going to mess them up in one way or another.

He's actually not meant purely for coop, which he is still good in. I've been enjoying playing as Clap and in UVHM I can still solo all the bosses. He's a little bit broken if anything. Pretty much you guys just don't like how playing with one affects YOU in game, which is understandable. But don't go saying it's a wasted character when they're decent and you probably haven't even played as Trap to be saying such a thing.

2k either balanced UVHM or made all the characters broken by lvl 70 because this is a damn good game that really nipped all the problems plagueing BL2. It just lacks the amount of content its predecessor had. To say that they included a completely useless character out of the box is pretty foolish.

[⚡DooM⚡]

Originally posted by Some Good Lovin:

Originally posted by Doom1991:

A pointless character to have. It's supposed to be a team character to heal the team but many other chars do a better job and more. His action skill is useless. I can bet that I'm not the first person to kick Claptrap characters from their lobby on sight.

Not even that. With the writing throughout the Borderlands franchise being a comedy and how each generation of Vault Hunters interact with each other is on sitcom tv level status. Not only that, but in every iteration, THAT is Claptrap. The wild card who'll accidentally dispense a secret stash of grenades they didn't know about and blow everyone up(which is a skill you acquire). That's Claptrap. The character in the sitcom who is lovable, accident prone and the butt of everyone's joking and abuse.

The Devs just didn't realize that players would hate that about him. That being said, his action skill isn't useless in later levels as you unlock more options for the skill to randomly choose from. He's a pretty good character overall imo. Just don't let him into the boss room if they're going to use their action skill.

I know that and I'm sure everyone else does. The devs made his playable character literal which is annoying. It didn't translate good at all in game the way they made him. It would be like if they made Jack's Doppleganger literal in game and his main ability was that you got random communications from Jack telling you to backstab your partners which would grant friendly fire for a short time. Borderlands was made as a cooperative game. Claptrap's playable character is not good for cooperative play as his ability says that it is classified as malware and may infect your allies. It's not a character that works in the Borderlands franchise for coop showing from all the videos of people trolling with Claptrap...

[bones]

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Originally posted by Some Good Lovin:

Not even that. With the writing throughout the Borderlands franchise being a comedy and how each generation of Vault Hunters interact with each other is on sitcom tv level status. Not only that, but in every iteration, THAT is Claptrap. The wild card who'll accidentally dispense a secret stash of grenades they didn't know about and blow everyone up(which is a skill you acquire). That's Claptrap. The character in the sitcom who is lovable, accident prone and the butt of everyone's joking and abuse.

The Devs just didn't realize that players would hate that about him. That being said, his action skill isn't useless in later levels as you unlock more options for the skill to randomly choose from. He's a pretty good character overall imo. Just don't let him into the boss room if they're going to use their action skill.

I know that and I'm sure everyone else does. The devs made his playable character literal which is annoying. It didn't translate good at all in game the way they made him. It would be like if they made Jack's Doppleganger literal in game and his main ability was that you got random communications from Jack telling you to backstab your partners which would grant friendly fire for a short time. Borderlands was made as a cooperative game. Claptrap's playable character is not good for cooperative play as his ability says that it is classified as malware and may infect your allies. It's not a character that works in the Borderlands franchise for coop showing from all the videos of people trolling with Claptrap...

I disagree and actually feel Fragtrap enhances the coop experience, but whatever that's just something we feel differently on.

[⚡DooM⚡]

Originally posted by Some Good Lovin:

Originally posted by Doom1991:

I know that and I'm sure everyone else does. The devs made his playable character literal which is annoying. It didn't translate good at all in game the way they made him. It would be like if they made Jack's Doppleganger literal in game and his main ability was that you got random communications from Jack telling you to backstab your partners which would grant friendly fire for a short time. Borderlands was made as a cooperative game. Claptrap's playable character is not good for cooperative play as his ability says that it is classified as malware and may infect your allies. It's not a character that works in the Borderlands franchise for coop showing from all the videos of people trolling with Claptrap...

I disagree and actually feel Fragtrap enhances the coop experience, but whatever that's just something we feel differently on.

Krieg in BL2 had a voluntary skill to allow other players to harm him. What do you think an involuntary skill that allows one player to harm every other is going to do?