Lady Hammerlock question

[Torde]

So she has a skilltree entirely devoted to coop gameplay.. Is it possible to have two people do this and just have insane bonuses? Got no friends to try it with so thought I would ask incase anyone has tried or knows.

[chaosbringer42]

Her co-op tree is by far her worst, and even maxed its kinda crap unless your ally is op.

[Torde]

Oh, Really not that good? Damn. ._.

[chaosbringer42]

Ice tree, then sniper tree is the best way, if you max ice and make sure to get your stacks up (its a passive buff skill), you can easily kill anything including bosses (it increases your damage by %).

[Traj]

Originally posted by Tordehole:

Oh, Really not that good? Damn. ._.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlChQm8FS0o

[Traj]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byNVW7PyFL8

[chaosbringer42]

Traj, you literally just proved my point, ice and sniper are great, coop tree is adequate with an ally but kinda crap alone (excluding 2 skills which dont matter much anyway).

[Traj]

Originally posted by chaosbringer42:

Traj, you literally just proved my point, ice and sniper are great, coop tree is adequate with an ally but kinda crap alone (excluding 2 skills which dont matter much anyway).

exept for 2-5 skills for solo, yes it's not very usefull but in coop ofc it's better

[Sysgen]

The legendary mod for the Baroness is +5 and adds 10 pts to two skills in that tree and makes those 2 skills exceptional.

[Funky T]

To get back to the original question:
I'm not entirely sure but I think in the skill description for the contract it says that you can only have one contract at a time. That would mean, that you can't get contracts with multiple allies at a time and that 2 aurelias can't contract each other, since that would be 2 again.
You may want to check that yourself, pretty sure it's in the skill description.

[Sysgen]

Originally posted by Funky T:

To get back to the original question:
I'm not entirely sure but I think in the skill description for the contract it says that you can only have one contract at a time. That would mean, that you can't get contracts with multiple allies at a time and that 2 aurelias can't contract each other, since that would be 2 again.
You may want to check that yourself, pretty sure it's in the skill description.

Pretty sure two Aurelia's can function in a contractual relationship, i.e. master and servant.

[Torde]

Yeah, the main question, Before everyone started talking about how viable she is, Was if you could have two pair up both as master and servant to eachother. Kinda doubted it as it sounds silly but yeah.

[Funky T]

Originally posted by Sysgen:

Originally posted by Funky T:

To get back to the original question:
I'm not entirely sure but I think in the skill description for the contract it says that you can only have one contract at a time. That would mean, that you can't get contracts with multiple allies at a time and that 2 aurelias can't contract each other, since that would be 2 again.
You may want to check that yourself, pretty sure it's in the skill description.

Pretty sure two Aurelia's can function in a contractual relationship, i.e. master and servant.

Yes, one can be the master and one can be the servant. That works just like with every other character. But I believe the question was, if both aurelias could skill into the co-op tree and both use their contract, making both of them master and servant at the same time and therefore giving every single bonus available to both of them.
And I'm pretty sure that doesn't work.

[Sysgen]

Originally posted by Tordehole:

Yeah, the main question, Before everyone started talking about how viable she is, Was if you could have two pair up both as master and servant to eachother. Kinda doubted it as it sounds silly but yeah.

Late to the viability discussion but just to say that I just finished taking her through NVHM, TVHM and UVHM (with points in all 3 trees solo) and playing her was definitely an enjoyable experience.

[Click Fire]

to answer the actual question, two aurelias cannot contract each other. once you are in a contract (as a master or a servant) you can not offer a new contract. You can however 'transfer' the strength of a contract if your servant disconnects and you contract onto someone else.

As far as whether its worth using over the ice or sniper tree..... I did a playthrough with some friends and when you are going for several hours straight and can actually get everything to max stats, you turn your allies into undying gods (assuming they don't fall out of map). The problem is that when you do lose your stacks its fairly time consuming to build up again. We ultimately found that beyond about 10 points invested in that tree, most of the deeper stuff took so long to get going it just wasn't worth it. If you play single player, the tree *can* actually work without a contract partner, primarily in the form of Duchess and Quality not Quantity. The tree actually has valid skills leading all the way to the final skill primarily augmenting your fire rate and accuracy. At low levels its not terribly fantastic but at later levels with certain legendary class mods getting at least QnQ is absolutely worth it.