I bought a winery, now what?

[Ryan]

Title says it all really, any advice?

[FourGreenFields]

Check which workshops you can turn it into. Think any of them would be more profitable?

If not, don't touch the workshop, basically.

[Rats]

Originally posted by Ryn:

Title says it all really, any advice?

Ride around and find the cheapest grapes you can find and put them in the warehouse in the town where your winery is.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Rats:

Originally posted by Ryn:

Title says it all really, any advice?

Ride around and find the cheapest grapes you can find and put them in the warehouse in the town where your winery is.

Ah and then it turns it into wine? Then do I sell the wine myself? And wine generally is higher to sell than just grapes?

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by Ryn:

Originally posted by Rats:

Ride around and find the cheapest grapes you can find and put them in the warehouse in the town where your winery is.

Ah and then it turns it into wine? Then do I sell the wine myself? And wine generally is higher to sell than just grapes?

If the winery is active, it turns grapes into wine.

It's active if it can make a profit. Unsure if it counts using items from the warehouse as a cost; usually, workshops just buy from the market.

It turns grapes, no matter whether in the warehouse or newly-bought, into wine. This may or may not be profitable, depending on the price of both - don't worry too much about it, just be smart about where you place your workshops.

You can tell it to store part or all of the produced items in the warehouse (clan interface), for you to pick up and sell yourself... but that doesn't give trade XP, so I usually don't do that.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by FourGreenFields:

Originally posted by Ryn:

Ah and then it turns it into wine? Then do I sell the wine myself? And wine generally is higher to sell than just grapes?

If the winery is active, it turns grapes into wine.

It's active if it can make a profit. Unsure if it counts using items from the warehouse as a cost; usually, workshops just buy from the market.

It turns grapes, no matter whether in the warehouse or newly-bought, into wine. This may or may not be profitable, depending on the price of both - don't worry too much about it, just be smart about where you place your workshops.

You can tell it to store part or all of the produced items in the warehouse (clan interface), for you to pick up and sell yourself... but that doesn't give trade XP, so I usually don't do that.

How do you mean active if it can make a profit? Is the process automatic?

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by Ryn:

Originally posted by FourGreenFields:

If the winery is active, it turns grapes into wine.

It's active if it can make a profit. Unsure if it counts using items from the warehouse as a cost; usually, workshops just buy from the market.

It turns grapes, no matter whether in the warehouse or newly-bought, into wine. This may or may not be profitable, depending on the price of both - don't worry too much about it, just be smart about where you place your workshops.

You can tell it to store part or all of the produced items in the warehouse (clan interface), for you to pick up and sell yourself... but that doesn't give trade XP, so I usually don't do that.

How do you mean active if it can make a profit? Is the process automatic?

Yes, automatic. You'll see "active" or "halted" in the workshop's description in the clan interface, with (at least for "halted" a tooltip explaining why it's halted if you mouse-over.

[Action Man]

When I buy workshops, I made sure the Trade Bound villages produce the thing the workshop needs. As long as the prosperity of the town is good and continues going up, it spits out a few hundred bucks a day.

Trade Bound villages are any of the villages directly attached to the town, as well as any nearby castles owned by you/your faction. You want to own the castle as well to guarantee the villages trade with you.

If your workshop doesn't have access to the raw materials needed, then you will have to supply them.

[Clovis Sangrail]

Directing the output to your warehouse gives you Trade experience, but selling the goods in the warehouse does not, even if you haul them somewhere else.

I have not been able to determine whether you have to provide the raw materials to the warehouse yourself to get that trade experience. Does anyone know?

[cretedog]

when you put the grapes into the warehouse, make sure you tick on the (input square ) so the workshop can get the grapes out of the warehouse.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by cretedog:

when you put the grapes into the warehouse, make sure you tick on the (input square ) so the workshop can get the grapes out of the warehouse.

It's now working! But the prices fluctuate. Is this because the market is now being flooded with wine? Do I have to travel to different towns to sell?
I saw someone say to buy all the neighbouring wine presses and convert them to create a monopoly for myself. Does this work?

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Ryn:

Originally posted by cretedog:

when you put the grapes into the warehouse, make sure you tick on the (input square ) so the workshop can get the grapes out of the warehouse.

It's now working! But the prices fluctuate. Is this because the market is now being flooded with wine? Do I have to travel to different towns to sell?
I saw someone say to buy all the neighbouring wine presses and convert them to create a monopoly for myself. Does this work?

If you produce more than what the market consume daily and what traders manage to move, price will tank. That is just how supply vs demand work. Just adjust ratio of how much you want to direct to warehouse vs local market to keep prices up. Then just move the overflow in warehouse yourself.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by Ryn:

It's now working! But the prices fluctuate. Is this because the market is now being flooded with wine? Do I have to travel to different towns to sell?
I saw someone say to buy all the neighbouring wine presses and convert them to create a monopoly for myself. Does this work?

If you produce more than what the market consume daily and what traders manage to move, price will tank. That is just how supply vs demand work. Just adjust ratio of how much you want to direct to warehouse vs local market to keep prices up. Then just move the overflow in warehouse yourself.

Ok I'll try this thanks!

[Sabaithal]

I'd plan ahead before you buy a workshop next time.

Basically look for a city where you can find a raw material in high quantities for a cheap price (like clay at 8 gold for example). If there isn't a pottery in the town already its probably a good choice for a pottery.

Just bear in mind your profit will be higher at first due to pottery being nonexistent in that town, and then will slowly lower in price as pottery becomes more common there. It will typically stop at a certain point though, as caravans regularly come through and buy commodities like pottery, keeping the price from becoming too low.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

I'd plan ahead before you buy a workshop next time.

Basically look for a city where you can find a raw material in high quantities for a cheap price (like clay at 8 gold for example). If there isn't a pottery in the town already its probably a good choice for a pottery.

Just bear in mind your profit will be higher at first due to pottery being nonexistent in that town, and then will slowly lower in price as pottery becomes more common there. It will typically stop at a certain point though, as caravans regularly come through and buy commodities like pottery, keeping the price from becoming too low.

Ok so I've found an olive press in Sargot and have 3 villages producing olives for me using the Agricultural Estate mod. Should I focus on making oil then selling? Do I have to start selling at different towns once the price drops? (It's a shame you can't give it all to your caravan to do it for you)

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by Ryn:

Do I have to start selling at different towns once the price drops?

If you want to maximise profits? Definitely.

But (without having the ability to check the actual prices of the various items, and workshops in surrounding towns and such; haven't used that mod either), it should be making good profit even without you distributing the goods yourself.