Sword Sisters are so awful. I wish they were a bit better!

[Fried Noodles]

I've had quite a few games where I'd power through the beginning quest to recover my siblings.
And I'd always resolve the final its of combat by going around and hiring mercenaries and then sending them on an attack run to clear the bandit bases.
And usually no matter what mercs I hire they seem to do the job just fine.
Then I duel the boss at the end and it's a wrap.

I just tried that with Veteran Sword Sisters.

They got slaughtered. I failed the Bandit Camp Raid.

Boo.
How're they so bad? ;)

[flyingscot1066]

They have no helmet, and the armor they do have is garbage. All mercenaries need a rework.

[shoobers]

Sword sisters are ranged troops. Treat them as such.

[Rob'sEvilTwin]

Originally posted by shoobers:

Sword sisters are ranged troops. Treat them as such.

Sensible advice!

On bandit camps I have them form a line while I aggro the bandits. When the bandits get close enough, fire at will :D

[flyingscot1066]

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. Best units, HANDS DOWN, for hideouts is Aserai Footmen.

Better than Skirmishers, Wildlings, Heavy Axemen, Fians, Cataphracts, Khans Guards, even Companions (though I do like using Companions to get them exp).. nobody is as good as those Footmen. Easy to get, easily replaceable, cheap to pay, they sweep through hideouts like butter, and they take every damn prisoner without harming a hair on their precious little heads.

[Redarmy]

Originally posted by flyingscot1066:

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. Best units, HANDS DOWN, for hideouts is Aserai Footmen.

Better than Skirmishers, Wildlings, Heavy Axemen, Fians, Cataphracts, Khans Guards, even Companions (though I do like using Companions to get them exp).. nobody is as good as those Footmen. Easy to get, easily replaceable, cheap to pay, they sweep through hideouts like butter, and they take every damn prisoner without harming a hair on their precious little heads.

Druzniks are kings for hideouts. i roll in there with 2 each time and my companons,never loose anyone

[拿破戾翁-破拿霸地]

Sword sisters r ranged troops. Why would anybody refuse the duel? U get all the enemies behind boss become your prisoners

[redhongkong]

it looks like all mercenary unit have weaker head piece or 0 head piece, they are very weak, unless u are using them to mix into field units. dont use them for hideout... the best hideout unit are always shield javalin thrower or any other shield unit if u wanna bring ranged unit. just expect them to die in battle. or wounded if u have high medicine skill

[flyingscot1066]

Originally posted by Redarmy:

Druzniks are kings for hideouts. i roll in there with 2 each time and my companons,never loose anyone

I have the same number of losses, and get 100% of the inhabitants as captives. How's the percentage on Druzies? I can also solo every hideout. It's not that they are hard, it's about maximizing the return on them.

Originally posted by Sheepify:

Originally posted by flyingscot1066:

Wildlings

Le gasp!

Oh no you did not.

Oh, I did. And I'll do it again!

Wildlings will tear it up faster, as will Druzhinniks, but if all I wanted was to turn the bandits into a fine red mist I'd use companions for the xp.

[Hans Blitz]

Yep i think they are the worse unit on the board, they got the bad end of the stick compared to older games.

[Rhapsody]

Any noble troops will make swift work of the hideouts.

Sword Sisters are crossbow troops without helmets. Not exactly ideal for hideouts.

As for whether they should be buffed or not, I'm not so sure. There are already enough good ranged units in the game, both infantry and mounted. But something like the macemen and such might deserve a second iteration.

[Enigmatory]

Mercs should be equipped better then regular troops. Especially considering thier cost. Currently they wearing garbage from trashcans. SS not wearing helmet it' like sucide girls - get it - they don't have brains... but they still need their head on shoulders. Still they only mounted crossbowman in game. But they lack of skill to use anything exept light crossbow on horse... well... kinda garbage troops.

Best unit for hideout imperial legionarie cause they often carry maces increasing potential number of prisoners.(Not like hideout was any challenge to begin with).

[Sabaithal]

Mercs were SUPPOSED to be balanced to have worse armor compared to normal soldiers, but better weaponry. Though I don't think this is actually the case unfortunately.

Though there are some perks that reduce wages specifically for merc troops, so maybe that's the reason why. Problem being that while they are cheap to replace its not necessarily easy since I can only ever seem to find them in taverns.

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Mercs were SUPPOSED to be balanced to have worse armor compared to normal soldiers, but better weaponry. Though I don't think this is actually the case unfortunately.

It is, that's how they are like in most cases, but especially in case of melee mercs, it doesn't actually help or make them desirable soldiers.

[LockeCasual]

I find that they're actually very good, but you don't treat them like shack troops. They're name is misleading, as they are best when treated as crossbow units. ALWAYS train them to become Gallant Sword Sisters and you will notice they are actually very effective horsed archers.

The lack of a helmet can can be explained as a cultural thing. WEaring kilts into battle wasn't the most sensible choice either, and yet some entire armies wore them. Of course, the Scots didn't conquer the world, either, but lol, neither will the sword sisters.

I always keep about 7-11 Gallant Sword Sisters in my army. They're badass

[拿破戾翁-破拿霸地]

Originally posted by Enigmatory:

Mercs should be equipped better then regular troops. Especially considering thier cost. Currently they wearing garbage from trashcans. SS not wearing helmet it' like sucide girls - get it - they don't have brains... but they still need their head on shoulders. Still they only mounted crossbowman in game. But they lack of skill to use anything exept light crossbow on horse... well... kinda garbage troops.

Best unit for hideout imperial legionarie cause they often carry maces increasing potential number of prisoners.(Not like hideout was any challenge to begin with).

The reason why sword sister won't use helmet is for letting players see their feminine face