Main Quest Kills Sandbox

[McFuzzums]

In this title, made famous for it's incredible sandbox freedom, you are required to spend the first 10+ hours of your campaign on a fetch quest. If you don't focus on the main quest, you will never get to create a kingdom. Whats that you say? Just do main quest when your ready for a kingdom? No no no, you must do main quest now or it will expire ending any chance you would have in the future to create a kingdom. So, every time you want to start a new character, try a new build, try a new role.... 10+ hours on a fetch quest first. Am I the only person that finds this forced main quest to be daunting, boring, and game destroying?

[bumm3r]

I definitely think it's annoying but it doesn't take anywhere near 10 hours to get the banner assembled

[Go0lden_Archer]

It expires very long after the game start. I just casually do it in all my playthroughs, not actually focusing on it. If I see a lord with blue exclamation mark I go talk to them. Every other step is easy and quick.

So.... no i think its fine. I never failed it and even if you TRY to it's hard not to find 10 lords in 10 years lol

[Nasse-Setä]

The quest is definitely boring, although I suppose it gives you a chance to see all the different areas of the map. I hope they'll make the main quest more exciting over the Early Access period.

[Muscarine]

I don't find it damaging but i would tend to agree.

Sandbox with a main quest implying a sense of emergency don't go well together.
Kinda like Bethesda games, hey find your kidnapped son......... 5 years roaming and looting later.........

[jerrypocalypse]

I only found the first 2 lords by intentionally tracking them down. The rest I just found as I ran into them while doing my own thing. I'm not even 200 days in, well before the time limit.

[Monarch Black]

You don't have to do it. I finished the tutorial mission, then just started playing the game. This round, I'm just playing to paint the map blue for Sturgia. I think I may have talked to 6 of the nobles for the 1st part of the quest thus far. If I run across one really close, I talk to them about it. I have land, a powerful army and more money than I have stuff to spend it on. I don't do quests, I just kill any army I come across. Once they have the game more fleshed out I'll clear the map for my own kingdom.

[McFuzzums]

Originally posted by bumm3r:

I definitely think it's annoying but it doesn't take anywhere near 10 hours to get the banner assembled

Maybe 10 hours is an exaggeration. Perhaps "game destroying" is a bit dramatic as well. But it does annoy me for sure. I'm hoping the game creates new start / story options. Or at least speeds the main quest up. (3 lords maybe?)

[RaNdOmKiLs666]

The devs should remove the stupid 10 year timer the main quest has, imagine how annoying Skyrim would be if the main quests had time limits, that'd be horrible.

[bumm3r]

Originally posted by tyler.k.roberts:

Originally posted by bumm3r:

I definitely think it's annoying but it doesn't take anywhere near 10 hours to get the banner assembled

Maybe 10 hours is an exaggeration. Perhaps "game destroying" is a bit dramatic as well. But it does annoy me for sure. I'm hoping the game creates new start / story options. Or at least speeds the main quest up. (3 lords maybe?)

if you just go around the map trading a bit in each of the faction's main lands you'll pretty easily just naturally run into them. I sort of doubt that the main quest thing will change, and if it does I also doubt that it'll be any time soon. I just hope there's a bit more modding support so that people can remove it that way the day they get the ability and tools to do so. I've done 4 campaigns so far since release and aside from my first one, I haven't had to track down more than 3 lords after I decided I'd done enough trading around the world.

[BrowneHawk]

Quest is junk, mine finally just went away around day 900, said I failed after not stopping the conspiracy. Good riddance. No negative effect came from this and my game world is exactly as it was. So in reality the quest is nothing more than a small renown bump at certain points.

[McFuzzums]

Originally posted by BrowneHawk:

Quest is junk, mine finally just went away around day 900, said I failed after not stopping the conspiracy. Good riddance. No negative effect came from this and my game world is exactly as it was. So in reality the quest is nothing more than a small renown bump at certain points.

I'm told you can never create a kingdom without completing the quest.

[Gekk]

Independent kingdom creation is tied directly to the story quest, yes.

It's hard to view campaign mode as a proper sandbox and not just a mixed bag for early access. Hoping we either get a proper sandbox mode to utilize lineage down the road or reworks to campaign to make the quest not feel like it's hanging on you at all times, and forcing you to do it in order to access game mechanics.

[CoioTe]

10 hours??? Wtf are you doing? Ihve started several campaigns and i got that quest done with 1h ~ in all that runs....just go look for them damn it

[titanopteryx]

just as some extra info, there's more than 10 lords that you can talk to and not all of them have a exclaimation mark on them. Every time you see a lord you haven't talked to yet, try talking to him just in case.

[SIX]

The quest should be about visit cities not moving heroes it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pain