Focus points in trade

[Rozly]

I wrongly put a big amount of focus points in trade and right now I am struggling with lvl it up, because as it would seem, having a lot of caravans don't work.
The only option that remains is a simple old trade, the thing is, i can't find effective way of leveling it.
I have 2 milions and I don't care about money right now, any ideas?
Thanks for attention

[kesat]

best way to level it is really just about good ol' trading goods. Buy low (green price), sell high (red price). Nothing more you can do unfortunately.

[Natius]

Originally posted by kesat:

best way to level it is really just about good ol' trading goods. Buy low (green price), sell high (red price). Nothing more you can do unfortunately.

or just follow your caravan around and buy same goods and sell same goods

[»Matrim Cauthon«]

Also, make sure you do your trading during a single game session. Loading a save currently seems to break profit tracking for some people, causing little to no experience gain.

Trade XP is based off the profit obtained from selling.

[Tendeep]

Trading is such a broken POS mechanic at the moment.

1) You get 0 renown, hard AF to reach clan lvl 3 if you mostly trade
2) You do not level it unless manually trading goods in bulk
3) No high trade skill NPCs that I have seen

[RickJamesYies]

seems like caravans provide very minimal to no trade experience, wondering if this is just a bug, but you could try doing cattle trading, I have had some solid profits trading cows, sheep and hogs to aserai settlements, normally able to purchase hogs for about 20-27 each and sell for upwards of ~60-70 each and when i go sell my hog count is normally ~150 or so, there doesnt seem to be as much villages that produce sheep sadly.

[Slippin Jimmy]

Ive had 4 caravans operating for over 1 year, and sold hundreds of thousands in goods. I have 7 trade lol.

[Rozly]

Originally posted by kesat:

best way to level it is really just about good ol' trading goods. Buy low (green price), sell high (red price). Nothing more you can do unfortunately.

The most simple answer and I guess the best way to casual trade

Originally posted by Natius:

Originally posted by kesat:

best way to level it is really just about good ol' trading goods. Buy low (green price), sell high (red price). Nothing more you can do unfortunately.

or just follow your caravan around and buy same goods and sell same goods

Seems too hard, my "party" is slow as well

Originally posted by »Nihilist«:

Also, make sure you do your trading during a single game session. Loading a save currently seems to break profit tracking for some people, causing little to no experience gain.

Trade XP is based off the profit obtained from selling.

This could explain why I wasn't able to gain exp a few times

Originally posted by Tendeep:

Trading is such a broken POS mechanic at the moment.

1) You get 0 renown, hard AF to reach clan lvl 3 if you mostly trade
2) You do not level it unless manually trading goods in bulk
3) No high trade skill NPCs that I have seen

Not my case anymore, so I haven't much more to add, thanks all the same though

Originally posted by RickJamesYies:

seems like caravans provide very minimal to no trade experience, wondering if this is just a bug, but you could try doing cattle trading, I have had some solid profits trading cows, sheep and hogs to aserai settlements, normally able to purchase hogs for about 20-27 each and sell for upwards of ~60-70 each and when i go sell my hog count is normally ~150 or so, there doesnt seem to be as much villages that produce sheep sadly.

I'll try, i hope those price ranges are correct

Originally posted by Slippin Jimmy:

Ive had 4 caravans operating for over 1 year, and sold hundreds of thousands in goods. I have 7 trade lol.

It was my mistake to use my focus points on trade, yeah sh*t happens

[Tendeep]

I am not sure what you mean by not your case anymore...

Are you saying that these things do not happen to you?

Trading is such a broken POS mechanic at the moment.

1) You get 0 renown, hard AF to reach clan lvl 3 if you mostly trade
2) You do not level it unless manually trading goods in bulk
3) No high trade skill NPCs that I have seen

I still get 0 renown for trading, only get it for quests, combat, etc... trading, caravans and shops are not raising my renown, you know, the thing that increases clan rank... I have been stuck at 2 for half a day, real time.

The only way to level trade well is through large profits, or large bulk buy/sell. Did you find a way around this?

I have yet to see an NPC in game that has Trade as skill sets... am I wrong?

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Tendeep:

I am not sure what you mean by not your case anymore...

Are you saying that these things do not happen to you?

Trading is such a broken POS mechanic at the moment.

1) You get 0 renown, hard AF to reach clan lvl 3 if you mostly trade
2) You do not level it unless manually trading goods in bulk
3) No high trade skill NPCs that I have seen

I still get 0 renown for trading, only get it for quests, combat, etc... trading, caravans and shops are not raising my renown, you know, the thing that increases clan rank... I have been stuck at 2 for half a day, real time.

The only way to level trade well is through large profits, or large bulk buy/sell. Did you find a way around this?

I have yet to see an NPC in game that has Trade as skill sets... am I wrong?

Today's patch added a trade skill companion

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2052169322

[zlozt]

How I level it up:
1. Don't be in any faction
2. Buy a bunch of very cheap food (I usually go for fish at 9-10 and olives at 13-15)
3. Find a town that is under siege (might take some time, but its worth it)
4. Wait until siege is done (or abandoned, doesn't really matter if it was long enough)
5. Sell food. Town has no food at all and prices are very high.

[Doombringer]

You are better off selling to caravans in the starving region that the town itself - the start price is a little lower, but it doesn't go down each time you sell 1 unit...
(Caravans buy at the same prices as villages in the region, they charge more if you want to buy from them though.)

Also if you buy out the stock of whatever you are selling from the town before dumping it on a caravan you get a better price.
(if the caravan runs out of money, finish the trade then talk to them again - they get all their money back instantly!)

[Rozly]

Originally posted by Tendeep:

I am not sure what you mean by not your case anymore...

Are you saying that these things do not happen to you?

Trading is such a broken POS mechanic at the moment.

1) You get 0 renown, hard AF to reach clan lvl 3 if you mostly trade
2) You do not level it unless manually trading goods in bulk
3) No high trade skill NPCs that I have seen

I still get 0 renown for trading, only get it for quests, combat, etc... trading, caravans and shops are not raising my renown, you know, the thing that increases clan rank... I have been stuck at 2 for half a day, real time.

The only way to level trade well is through large profits, or large bulk buy/sell. Did you find a way around this?

I have yet to see an NPC in game that has Trade as skill sets... am I wrong?

I don't care about renown, that's why it's not my case. I just wanted to lvl up my trade skill that's all. I can't say about existence of trade skill NPC, why should I care? Maybe there is a mechanic I haven't known about

Originally posted by zlozt:

How I level it up:
1. Don't be in any faction
2. Buy a bunch of very cheap food (I usually go for fish at 9-10 and olives at 13-15)
3. Find a town that is under siege (might take some time, but its worth it)
4. Wait until siege is done (or abandoned, doesn't really matter if it was long enough)
5. Sell food. Town has no food at all and prices are very high.

I'll try this right away

Originally posted by Doombringer:

You are better off selling to caravans in the starving region that the town itself - the start price is a little lower, but it doesn't go down each time you sell 1 unit...
(Caravans buy at the same prices as villages in the region, they charge more if you want to buy from them though.)

Also if you buy out the stock of whatever you are selling from the town before dumping it on a caravan you get a better price.
(if the caravan runs out of money, finish the trade then talk to them again - they get all their money back instantly!)

You can intereact with caravans? :D

[Tendeep]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Originally posted by Tendeep:

I am not sure what you mean by not your case anymore...

Are you saying that these things do not happen to you?

Trading is such a broken POS mechanic at the moment.

1) You get 0 renown, hard AF to reach clan lvl 3 if you mostly trade
2) You do not level it unless manually trading goods in bulk
3) No high trade skill NPCs that I have seen

I still get 0 renown for trading, only get it for quests, combat, etc... trading, caravans and shops are not raising my renown, you know, the thing that increases clan rank... I have been stuck at 2 for half a day, real time.

The only way to level trade well is through large profits, or large bulk buy/sell. Did you find a way around this?

I have yet to see an NPC in game that has Trade as skill sets... am I wrong?

Today's patch added a trade skill companion

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2052169322

If only the companions were where they said they are via the in-game encyclopedia. I almost always arrive at the same town they say they are currently in, and a different person is there lol. At least they added one, finally, now if they could just correct the renown issue.

[zlozt]

Originally posted by Rozly:

Originally posted by zlozt:

How I level it up:
1. Don't be in any faction
2. Buy a bunch of very cheap food (I usually go for fish at 9-10 and olives at 13-15)
3. Find a town that is under siege (might take some time, but its worth it)
4. Wait until siege is done (or abandoned, doesn't really matter if it was long enough)
5. Sell food. Town has no food at all and prices are very high.

I'll try this right away

Don't. I did some testing today and found out that food is not really worth it. Trade exp depends on how much money you make from a deal and not how many times more is price at what you seel. For example, if you buy a cow for 150 and sell it for 200, you'll get more exp than if you buy fish for 9 and sell for 30.
I tried going in a circle selling cows and fur (also cotton and dates, mostly because it's on my way anyway), and it was much faster than dealing with food and sieges.
Here is a route:
1. Start near Omor and go trough Sturgia territory towards Khusait.
2. Buy cows (<=150) and fur (<=100) from villages and towns.
3. When you reach Khuzait go through a border of Empire territory towards Aserai.
4. Grab cotton on your way (<=50).
5. Go through Aserai territory and sell your goods.
6. I usually sell like that: cows >= 250, fur >= 150, cotton >= 70.
7. Grab some dates (<=50).
8. Go to Omor, sell some dates on your way there or while doing next lap (>=70).

The lowest price I've seen for cows is 89 and the highest is 460.

And check caravans on your way from time to time. Prices for cows in towns deteriorate very fast when you sell, so if you have a lot of them, it's better to sell to caravans, if they offer a decent price.

[zlozt]

Originally posted by Tendeep:

I still get 0 renown for trading, only get it for quests, combat, etc... trading, caravans and shops are not raising my renown, you know, the thing that increases clan rank... I have been stuck at 2 for half a day, real time.

There is a perk at trade 125 which gives you 1 renown/day for each caravan or workshop you own. I've got it today and it works. I've played for 3 days, but I was not only trading. I did a lot of quests, tournaments, smithing and board games. Also, I didn't have a decent trade route until 3 hours ago. I've incresed trade from 110 to 140 in those 3 hours.