F1® Manager 2024

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Sin Hope Six Aug 17, 2024 @ 3:32pm
Pace drop suddenly after overtake
Sometimes when my driver has been overtake my someone, he lost something like 2 second per lap for 3 laps. Is it a bug? Not really realistic
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High Ground Aug 17, 2024 @ 3:53pm 
Did his confidence significantly drop due to being overtaken ?
The Edge Aug 17, 2024 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by High Ground:
Did his confidence significantly drop due to being overtaken ?
OMG stop asking us things like this, the games race mechanics are broken and not a realistic take! You can have the fastest car and get passed by a back marker like ur standing still.... anyone who says otherwise either don't play a whole race in 1x speed , they are a shill or they have never watched a real race before. Its a joke!
Last edited by The Edge; Aug 17, 2024 @ 5:25pm
Thorstorm Aug 17, 2024 @ 9:28pm 
Originally posted by The Edge:
Originally posted by High Ground:
Did his confidence significantly drop due to being overtaken ?
OMG stop asking us things like this, the games race mechanics are broken and not a realistic take! You can have the fastest car and get passed by a back marker like ur standing still.... anyone who says otherwise either don't play a whole race in 1x speed , they are a shill or they have never watched a real race before. Its a joke!

By a back marker?
Maybe you should stop lying, and stop being a sore loser?
I've played enough of this game to know this never happens unless you have no idea what you're doing at all, which looks like you don't.
AoD_lexandro Aug 17, 2024 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by Bearded Tarnished:
Originally posted by The Edge:
OMG stop asking us things like this, the games race mechanics are broken and not a realistic take! You can have the fastest car and get passed by a back marker like ur standing still.... anyone who says otherwise either don't play a whole race in 1x speed , they are a shill or they have never watched a real race before. Its a joke!

By a back marker?
Maybe you should stop lying, and stop being a sore loser?
I've played enough of this game to know this never happens unless you have no idea what you're doing at all, which looks like you don't.

You have not played enough then. It happens all the time were a back marker will suddenly decide to race your car that's just out of the pits, and be 2 seconds faster out of nowhere. Or the known issue since the first game, which is if you pass under blue flags a lapped car will fight to overtake you again almost instantly.. Or the new bug with lapped cars ignoring blue flags completely.

Just because you are ignorant of the issues does not mean they do not exist.
The Edge Aug 17, 2024 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Bearded Tarnished:
Originally posted by The Edge:
OMG stop asking us things like this, the games race mechanics are broken and not a realistic take! You can have the fastest car and get passed by a back marker like ur standing still.... anyone who says otherwise either don't play a whole race in 1x speed , they are a shill or they have never watched a real race before. Its a joke!

By a back marker?
Maybe you should stop lying, and stop being a sore loser?
I've played enough of this game to know this never happens unless you have no idea what you're doing at all, which looks like you don't.
Another paid shill!
High Ground Aug 18, 2024 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by The Edge:
Originally posted by High Ground:
Did his confidence significantly drop due to being overtaken ?
OMG stop asking us things like this, the games race mechanics are broken and not a realistic take! You can have the fastest car and get passed by a back marker like ur standing still.... anyone who says otherwise either don't play a whole race in 1x speed , they are a shill or they have never watched a real race before. Its a joke!
I literally play all my GPs at x1 or x2 (when there's a big gap) speed.
The mechanics are broken, but we all know that low affinity, especially if you created your team which makes it bottom out, makes it that confidence hits rock bottom super fast, maybe it was that.

I've also seen some cars struggle to overtake (for no reason -> bad mechanic), but once they finally get to overtake you, then they can finally outpace you.
Greenboy007 Aug 18, 2024 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by High Ground:
Originally posted by The Edge:
OMG stop asking us things like this, the games race mechanics are broken and not a realistic take! You can have the fastest car and get passed by a back marker like ur standing still.... anyone who says otherwise either don't play a whole race in 1x speed , they are a shill or they have never watched a real race before. Its a joke!
I literally play all my GPs at x1 or x2 (when there's a big gap) speed.
The mechanics are broken, but we all know that low affinity, especially if you created your team which makes it bottom out, makes it that confidence hits rock bottom super fast, maybe it was that.

I've also seen some cars struggle to overtake (for no reason -> bad mechanic), but once they finally get to overtake you, then they can finally outpace you.
There DRS and Dirty air levels on there car, also the drivers stats?
Sin Hope Six Aug 18, 2024 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by High Ground:
Did his confidence significantly drop due to being overtaken ?
not much still in blue zone
Sin Hope Six Aug 18, 2024 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by Greenboy007:
Originally posted by High Ground:
I literally play all my GPs at x1 or x2 (when there's a big gap) speed.
The mechanics are broken, but we all know that low affinity, especially if you created your team which makes it bottom out, makes it that confidence hits rock bottom super fast, maybe it was that.

I've also seen some cars struggle to overtake (for no reason -> bad mechanic), but once they finally get to overtake you, then they can finally outpace you.
There DRS and Dirty air levels on there car, also the drivers stats?

it's first season with Stake so of course the car is ♥♥♥♥ but sometimes when for exemple Ocon overtake Bottas they are batteling like for 1 lap or 2 and then even if my confidence is in the same zone, there is a sudden drop of pace.

I was just wondering if it's a bug or just a problem of realism
Goul Aug 19, 2024 @ 9:09am 
There are some factors, yes, some of them need fixing and are wonky.
Your drivers dont drive their laps at laser accuracy lap-Times. 1 lap your driver could go a 1.24.4, next lap he does a 1.24.8. Thats already 0.4 seconds.
The dirty air stat, you drive in front, clean air, you get overtaken, dirty air, another 0.1, 0.2 or whatever your stats get you less.
Your drivers Defens stat. There is a check going on in the background that checks your defense stat against the other overtake stat AND how much faster the other car is. Sometimes, the other driver just dont succeed at this check and you get shown a faster car not able to overtake, but, as soon as it overtakes, just doing its normal laptime.
Same in reverse, a slower car behind you gets drs, gets to do an overtake check, their overtake stat against your defense stat modified by how much worse their car is and, despite low chances, succeeds. The animation will trigger that will show you visually that success.

And THEN aftzer the overtake, the other car immediately engages their ERS on Deploy and push settings on fuel and Driving style. So your driver maybe has a streak of doing lower limit laps, plus dirty air, plus other car accellerates 1,3 seconds a lap through usage of ERS, fuel and Driving style usage.
Do the math, you 0.4 seconds slower then you could, 0.2 seconds from dirty air and 1.3 seconds from other car on full Push mode. nearly 2 seconds difference...

I think there are some more factors then only those, but, you get the picture i guess.
Some People forget its all code and Math in the background, not REAL people driving...
Last edited by Goul; Aug 19, 2024 @ 9:16am
DeVip Aug 19, 2024 @ 11:59am 
I was raced by back marker Logan Sargeant, who proceeded to push me off the road and lose me valuable time. Utterly bizarre. Only happened the one time, but there was no mention of a blue flag or anything. I caught up to the back of him and he raced me. And that's a bug right there, no doubt about it.
Goul Aug 19, 2024 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by DeVip:
I was raced by back marker Logan Sargeant, who proceeded to push me off the road and lose me valuable time. Utterly bizarre. Only happened the one time, but there was no mention of a blue flag or anything. I caught up to the back of him and he raced me. And that's a bug right there, no doubt about it.

Yes, thats a bug, its a rare bug, but, i have seen that myself.
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Date Posted: Aug 17, 2024 @ 3:32pm
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