Is this the last F1 Manager they intend to make?

[L-laine]

I keep hearing people say this will be the last game but haven't seen an official source on this statement?

Of course its already 2025 and if there was gonna be one an F1 Manager 2025 would have released last year.

[Danom90]

F1 Manager 2025 has been reportedly cancelled as sales are below expectations

https://traxion.gg/f1-manager-2025-cancelled-as-sales-below-expectations/

[L-laine]

Originally posted by Danom90:

F1 Manager 2025 has been reportedly cancelled as sales are below expectations

https://traxion.gg/f1-manager-2025-cancelled-as-sales-below-expectations/

Honestly I'm not even surprised. With how sloppy they created the first game then quickly abandoned it. It's fate was sealed back then when they lost the trust of the fanbase with that initial rug pull. Not to mention the devs ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on players who wanted to create their own teams and the numerous bugs. Basically killed the franchise before it could get off the ground by heavy incompetence. Never bought the 1st game because of all the negative press and didn't touch the second either because not much had changed since the first.

Well guess I'll pick this up since its on sale before the games get completely kicked off steam.

[Jeferson Oliveira]

Welp, that's another racing managerial game that bites the dust...

[D'Ther]

Originally posted by L-laine:

Originally posted by Danom90:

F1 Manager 2025 has been reportedly cancelled as sales are below expectations

https://traxion.gg/f1-manager-2025-cancelled-as-sales-below-expectations/

Honestly I'm not even surprised. With how sloppy they created the first game then quickly abandoned it. It's fate was sealed back then when they lost the trust of the fanbase with that initial rug pull. Not to mention the devs ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on players who wanted to create their own teams and the numerous bugs. Basically killed the franchise before it could get off the ground by heavy incompetence. Never bought the 1st game because of all the negative press and didn't touch the second either because not much had changed since the first.

Well guess I'll pick this up since its on sale before the games get completely kicked off steam.

too bad, the game was given for free on epic store last week

[AndyBoyDinomon]

2024 came out a few weeks into the real 2024 season. So technically 2025 could still come out. But with all the surprise updates like tomorrow, I doubt a new game is coming.

They are doing everything they can to increase the life of the game. Now we can edit drivers and staff and schedule, so everyone can on their own make this new seasons grid even with the old liveries. And with creat a team…can add Cadillac and keep the game alive.

In this case, the best they can do is give the fans all the tools they can so that we can mod and develop it on our own. Many legendary games have lived for decades like this.

[PhoenixOmen]

To be honest, I hope they do let it go and some one that really cares takes over to develop a real F1 manager.

[Harbinger]

Who's going to take it over?

It's already proven too niche and seeing as Frontier paid for everything it's not within F1's remit to hand over any of the code or assets to a third party.

If Frontier have no alternative arrangement (eg paid DLC on this allegedly final game) a third party looking to take on a F1 Manager licensing deal afterwards would either need to acquire the code/assets from Frontier or completely start from scratch.

[TyCobb]

Saw the update today and with all of the stuff they added, I immediately assumed it's only because this is the last installment of the game. Everything they added seems like something they would have thrown in the next version.

If there was going to be F1 Manager `25, we probably would not have received this update. I expect this update to help get whatever future sales they can until the next successor shows up.

[IoMtT-Hy]

Originally posted by L-laine:

Originally posted by Danom90:

F1 Manager 2025 has been reportedly cancelled as sales are below expectations

https://traxion.gg/f1-manager-2025-cancelled-as-sales-below-expectations/

Honestly I'm not even surprised. With how sloppy they created the first game then quickly abandoned it. It's fate was sealed back then when they lost the trust of the fanbase with that initial rug pull. Not to mention the devs ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on players who wanted to create their own teams and the numerous bugs. Basically killed the franchise before it could get off the ground by heavy incompetence. Never bought the 1st game because of all the negative press and didn't touch the second either because not much had changed since the first.

Well guess I'll pick this up since its on sale before the games get completely kicked off steam.

I bought 22 and stopped playing it quickly, havent bought another title in the franchise since....they pretty much killed all trust from me after their behaviour with 22.

[jtm85]

I really like the game, especially FM24 with all the things they included it, but honestly, how many new mechanical things can they add to justify a new game every year. My humble opinion is that they can rename F1M24 as F1 Manager as a base game and update it with cheap DLCs every year with new liveries and new drivers and rules.

[Yiffy[Mc]Yiff]

Had FM of went with the MM with DLCs for yearly add-ons and mod-support, it would of succeeded. Constantly felt like a money grab that didn't need to happen and would of enjoyed doing some F3/F2 stuff, but it felt too... repetitive.....

[StoneCold]

Originally posted by jtm85:

I really like the game, especially FM24 with all the things they included it, but honestly, how many new mechanical things can they add to justify a new game every year. My humble opinion is that they can rename F1M24 as F1 Manager as a base game and update it with cheap DLCs every year with new liveries and new drivers and rules.

Pretty much this. Basically do what Codemasters are doing with WRC. Release an update for the new season each year with driver/team updates, track updates, rules etc and release it as paid DLC.

[Andy]

Originally posted by Harbinger:

Who's going to take it over?

It's already proven too niche

No it hasn't. Sales numbers for initial release for F1m 22 were very good. Due to the game being so bad, sales post release and for the christmas period tanked.
Initial sales numbers were good though, and showed that this type of game is more than capable of decent sales figures. Unfortunatly, it also had the problem of killing the trust of large parts of the fan base that bought into a shallow game that was full of bugs.
This is a case of loosing an audience they had rather than not finding one

and seeing as Frontier paid for everything it's not within F1's remit to hand over any of the code or assets to a third party.

No where has it ever been mentioned that the license was exclusive, but what was mentioned was the rights of F1 to pull the deal if sales numbers wern't up to scratch.
That means there's almost certainly a license available for 25 if anyone wants it. That however is never going to get taken up given how long it takes to make a game. And 25 was the last year of the license anyway as they only bought into a 4 year deal. So the license from 26 is available. Whether frontier still have the full exclusive rights to what they bought.
The code written by frontier is going to be thier IP, not FOM, FOM only own image rights. That's never going to be handed over to another game developer, and lets be honest here. We wouldn't want it to be. There's a reason this game has failed. Any new game would have to have far more depth.

If Frontier have no alternative arrangement (eg paid DLC on this allegedly final game) a third party looking to take on a F1 Manager licensing deal afterwards would either need to acquire the code/assets from Frontier or completely start from scratch.

The rights are available from FOM, not frontier.
There's a fair argument also to suggest that the f1 rights are too restrictive. The ultimate F1 management game is going to be one made without licenses but easily modable

[IoMtT-Hy]

Originally posted by Andy:

Originally posted by Harbinger:

Who's going to take it over?

It's already proven too niche

No it hasn't. Sales numbers for initial release for F1m 22 were very good. Due to the game being so bad, sales post release and for the christmas period tanked.
Initial sales numbers were good though, and showed that this type of game is more than capable of decent sales figures. Unfortunatly, it also had the problem of killing the trust of large parts of the fan base that bought into a shallow game that was full of bugs.
This is a case of loosing an audience they had rather than not finding one

and seeing as Frontier paid for everything it's not within F1's remit to hand over any of the code or assets to a third party.

No where has it ever been mentioned that the license was exclusive, but what was mentioned was the rights of F1 to pull the deal if sales numbers wern't up to scratch.
That means there's almost certainly a license available for 25 if anyone wants it. That however is never going to get taken up given how long it takes to make a game. And 25 was the last year of the license anyway as they only bought into a 4 year deal. So the license from 26 is available. Whether frontier still have the full exclusive rights to what they bought.
The code written by frontier is going to be thier IP, not FOM, FOM only own image rights. That's never going to be handed over to another game developer, and lets be honest here. We wouldn't want it to be. There's a reason this game has failed. Any new game would have to have far more depth.

If Frontier have no alternative arrangement (eg paid DLC on this allegedly final game) a third party looking to take on a F1 Manager licensing deal afterwards would either need to acquire the code/assets from Frontier or completely start from scratch.

The rights are available from FOM, not frontier.
There's a fair argument also to suggest that the f1 rights are too restrictive. The ultimate F1 management game is going to be one made without licenses but easily modable

Thats funny about complexity, I found I spent more time out of races with stuff to do and time waste in race too...I would hate to see more things to do in a game that's had too much micro managing in it to start with.

MM and other F1 titles were not graphically superior but their gui and mechanics were simple making it a much better game.

[chorion]

Originally posted by L-laine:

I keep hearing people say this will be the last game but haven't seen an official source on this statement?

Of course its already 2025 and if there was gonna be one an F1 Manager 2025 would have released last year.

So what is with all the late updates and new fixes? , are they trying to squeeze the most sales since no more games are coming or are they just trying their best ? , i am just a skeptic with so many franchises which just come yearly and change nothing