Created team gets no prize money?

[LEONIDAS792]

In tab "Finances", you can see every real team gets millions "Prize Money" per month. But when you create your own team, the "Prize Money" revenue turns out to be 0, and at the same time you still need to pay out one million "Entry Fee".

I have passed a game month and confirmed it's not a display error, your created team is seriously paying F1 to play.

So, am I getting it wrong or it's supposed to be like this? I do understand in real life a new team has to pay other teams to join F1, like the Porsche rumors said, but it literally destroyed the gameplay.

No Prize Money means per year a created team is earning 40m~70m less than any real team, and in 24 the bonus money you can get from a Grand Prix is much less than in 23. All these make it impossible to manage a created team's finances in 24. After several months, you will run out of money to design, to refurbish facilities, and even to manufacture necessary parts. To survive, you have to either stop car development, or hire VERY cheap drivers/staff from the beginning, and that makes this Create Team mode super boring, cause you have banned the most interesting parts of the game. It's just unplayable.

[Dreagon]

Why would you get prize money? You're a new team on the grid. Prize money is determined by your constructors championship position in the previous year. But yeah, it does make it pretty difficult.

[LEONIDAS792]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Why would you get prize money? You're a new team on the grid. Prize money is determined by your constructors championship position in the previous year. But yeah, it does make it pretty difficult.

Right, that part I understand, but they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the finances. They should give a new team more support, as they would in real life. Could you imagine Porsche (if they join F1 as the 11th team) hire the worst drivers/staff and stop designing/researching since middle of season, not because they hit the cap but they run out of money? It doesn't make sense.

[BadassRockett]

I was wondering the same thing. I played the 2022 game and remembered the screen post race showing the profit you made that race weekend but I don't get that with my created team. There is the bonus for finishing position but that's only a small amount.

I did wonder if it would kick in when I get to season 2025 but it's a long time to wait and my team if pretty broke. Oops 🙄

[Dreagon]

Yeah, it could use some balancing. Right now I'm at the point where I'm considering restarting sessions if my cars get damaged because with my money I can barely produce enough stuff to keep up with natural degredation. But at least the season objective could use some balancing. No way you're finishing 9th with the worst team and drivers.

[LEONIDAS792]

Originally posted by BadassRockett:

I was wondering the same thing. I played the 2022 game and remembered the screen post race showing the profit you made that race weekend but I don't get that with my created team. There is the bonus for finishing position but that's only a small amount.

I did wonder if it would kick in when I get to season 2025 but it's a long time to wait and my team if pretty broke. Oops 🙄

I guess they replace that by the new sponsor system, which is basically the finishing position bonus you see. I have tried both real team and created team and the old bonus system seems gone, now the only thing you can do on race day is choosing Tall/Grande/Venti. Sad.

The old system allows you to earn a ton of money by climbing 10+ positions in race. It's not very real, but fun and enjoyable. No idea why they removed it. Guess they really don't play their own game.

[LEONIDAS792]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Yeah, it could use some balancing. Right now I'm at the point where I'm considering restarting sessions if my cars get damaged because with my money I can barely produce enough stuff to keep up with natural degredation. But at least the season objective could use some balancing. No way you're finishing 9th with the worst team and drivers.

IDK. I hope they rebalance it soon since the Create-Team mode is not really fun to play, and the traditional mode is kinda too similar to the last generation. But I guess they have to fight with the bugs for a while. I'd better step away and come back later after a few patches.

[BadassRockett]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Yeah, it could use some balancing. Right now I'm at the point where I'm considering restarting sessions if my cars get damaged because with my money I can barely produce enough stuff to keep up with natural degredation. But at least the season objective could use some balancing. No way you're finishing 9th with the worst team and drivers.

Damn wish my head objective was 9th, I started with the everything at level 1 etc, worst car and hardly any money and they expect me to finish 7th 🙄

I'm wishing I could go back and only build new parts I develop for my lead driver and make the 2nd driver use old parts to save money as like you I'm struggling to get enough just to keep racing

[Dreagon]

Originally posted by BadassRockett:

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Yeah, it could use some balancing. Right now I'm at the point where I'm considering restarting sessions if my cars get damaged because with my money I can barely produce enough stuff to keep up with natural degredation. But at least the season objective could use some balancing. No way you're finishing 9th with the worst team and drivers.

Damn wish my head objective was 9th, I started with the everything at level 1 etc, worst car and hardly any money and they expect me to finish 7th 🙄

I'm wishing I could go back and only build new parts I develop for my lead driver and make the 2nd driver use old parts to save money as like you I'm struggling to get enough just to keep racing

I'm not sure how they choose the objectives. I started with everything at the lowest possible except the money, which I started with 5 million instead of 2 million. And all my staff and drivers are in the 70's.

[BadassRockett]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Originally posted by BadassRockett:

Damn wish my head objective was 9th, I started with the everything at level 1 etc, worst car and hardly any money and they expect me to finish 7th 🙄

I'm wishing I could go back and only build new parts I develop for my lead driver and make the 2nd driver use old parts to save money as like you I'm struggling to get enough just to keep racing

I'm not sure how they choose the objectives. I started with everything at the lowest possible except the money, which I started with 5 million instead of 2 million. And all my staff and drivers are in the 70's.

I also chose 5 million for the starting capital however I did pick one OK driver (paistri) and some OK staff, not the best but in my mind if I were starting a new team it would have been on the basis I'd convinced some credible people to be part of the project.

Though I have a feeling I'll lose all the staff and drivers at the end of the year

[LEONIDAS792]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Originally posted by BadassRockett:

Damn wish my head objective was 9th, I started with the everything at level 1 etc, worst car and hardly any money and they expect me to finish 7th 🙄

I'm wishing I could go back and only build new parts I develop for my lead driver and make the 2nd driver use old parts to save money as like you I'm struggling to get enough just to keep racing

I'm not sure how they choose the objectives. I started with everything at the lowest possible except the money, which I started with 5 million instead of 2 million. And all my staff and drivers are in the 70's.

How often do you do designs? Are consecutive designs in 4 lines affordable? If hiring all 70’s staff still cannot save up the money, I guess the first season of a created team is meant to suffer.

[Dreagon]

Originally posted by LEONIDAS792:

Originally posted by Dreagon:

I'm not sure how they choose the objectives. I started with everything at the lowest possible except the money, which I started with 5 million instead of 2 million. And all my staff and drivers are in the 70's.

How often do you do designs? Are consecutive designs in 4 lines affordable? If hiring all 70’s staff still cannot save up the money, I guess the first season of a created team is meant to suffer.

No, you can't do that. Not if you also want to actually build the parts you design at least. I think I get something like 1.3 million per month, plus the 300k-600k per race if my drivers do ok, and something like 3 or 4 million in sponsors every 6 weeks or so. So far I've done 3 designs at the same time twice, one for each part.

[SmlehliW]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

... I get something like 1.3 million per month, plus the 300k-600k per race if my drivers do ok, and something like 3 or 4 million in sponsors every 6 weeks or so. So far I've done 3 designs at the same time twice, one for each part.

i have no (nothing) money income! what is wrong?

[LEONIDAS792]

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Originally posted by LEONIDAS792:

How often do you do designs? Are consecutive designs in 4 lines affordable? If hiring all 70’s staff still cannot save up the money, I guess the first season of a created team is meant to suffer.

No, you can't do that. Not if you also want to actually build the parts you design at least. I think I get something like 1.3 million per month, plus the 300k-600k per race if my drivers do ok, and something like 3 or 4 million in sponsors every 6 weeks or so. So far I've done 3 designs at the same time twice, one for each part.

I see. Thank you for the information!

It’s kinda weird since last year even sauber could afford consecutive designs and some upgrades of facilities in the first year, and win several races at the end of season. Created team requires an even better management of finances. I feel Frontier they seem to allow you to start with the best, but actually not.

Anyway, I guess I have to play a really underdog for once to see how things really work. Good luck on your team.

[The Met4l God]

Originally posted by LEONIDAS792:

Originally posted by Dreagon:

Why would you get prize money? You're a new team on the grid. Prize money is determined by your constructors championship position in the previous year. But yeah, it does make it pretty difficult.

Right, that part I understand, but they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the finances. They should give a new team more support, as they would in real life. Could you imagine Porsche (if they join F1 as the 11th team) hire the worst drivers/staff and stop designing/researching since middle of season, not because they hit the cap but they run out of money? It doesn't make sense.

I don't know if they used Motorsport Manager from 2016 as a model for Create-A-Team, but in that game a player-made team wouldn't get race winnings (prize money) until the end of the season. I just started playing the game this morning with my own team so I'm not really sure what the system is yet.

[LEONIDAS792]

Originally posted by The Met4l God:

Originally posted by LEONIDAS792:

Right, that part I understand, but they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the finances. They should give a new team more support, as they would in real life. Could you imagine Porsche (if they join F1 as the 11th team) hire the worst drivers/staff and stop designing/researching since middle of season, not because they hit the cap but they run out of money? It doesn't make sense.

I don't know if they used Motorsport Manager from 2016 as a model for Create-A-Team, but in that game a player-made team wouldn't get race winnings (prize money) until the end of the season. I just started playing the game this morning with my own team so I'm not really sure what the system is yet.

Ah I did have played MM, but can’t really remember this detail. Perhaps played an early version.

No Prize Money is not an issue actually. The fact you can’t choose the team you want is the issue. Although they allow you to choose Hamilton and Verstappen (it’s even the default choice!), you can’t really do that, cause you won’t afford after mid season, even with the highest capital started.

It turns create-team mode to an underdog challenge. Players can’t design a team they dreamed, if they want to win sth in the first season. How could this be called “create your own team”? I really don’t like this design.