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NiKuTa Jun 6, 2024 @ 2:40am
Denuvo - no thx!
I will never bay any game with denuvo.
FIrst I saw a price, its cheaper than M23. Wow I will buy that, but then I saw Denuvo. :(
STOP use that. I have so many problems, and some huge performance issue with one game+denuvo. A lots of pll have problems with denuvo. SO never game with denuvo.
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Enwrong Jun 7, 2024 @ 5:28am 
I agree, stop using this crap!
Xextreem Jun 10, 2024 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by NiKuTa:
I will never bay any game with denuvo.
FIrst I saw a price, its cheaper than M23. Wow I will buy that, but then I saw Denuvo. :(
STOP use that. I have so many problems, and some huge performance issue with one game+denuvo. A lots of pll have problems with denuvo. SO never game with denuvo.

Good luck! Now we can close this topic. It's a license game they need to do it. But well a monkey is still a monkey.
Sethiusdrvn Jun 15, 2024 @ 6:22am 
devuno doesn't stop pirates from getting around it anyway. what did it delay for hogwarts legacy? 4 days. wow. that's millions of money well spent .... took the programers for that game months on end to fix performance problems because of devu.
Andy Jun 15, 2024 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by Sethiusdrvn:
devuno doesn't stop pirates from getting around it anyway. what did it delay for hogwarts legacy? 4 days. wow. that's millions of money well spent .... took the programers for that game months on end to fix performance problems because of devu.
That's not accurate.
As crap as denuvo is, it is for the most part successful. There's been a few notible exceptions, but they remain just that.
Hogwarts legacy took about 2 weeks to crack, and those that downloaded it got malware.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3844431603865733712/
Hardly a viable choice.

F1 2023 is still not cracked.
https://cwwatch.net/f1-23/

So, to say it's made no difference here isn't accurate at all.
The bulk of a games sales happen in the first few months. So given denuvo games that do get cracked are often many months down the line. It does mean the devs don't loose out on much of the revenue from the bulk of the sales happening shortly after release.
Denuvo is also sold as a time limited product that needs to continually be paid for, so sometimes find games dropping it after a year any way.

Even though it saps your system, giving the game worse performance. It's record against being pirated, and being pirated early in games life cycle is very good.
Last edited by Andy; Jun 15, 2024 @ 12:08pm
Mike Takumi Jun 17, 2024 @ 9:10am 
It doesn't even drag performance when it's actually properly implemented into a game rather than smashed on with a sledgehammer super late in development. Which also tends to be the difference between the ones that are cracked and not cracked (on top of popularity, of course). At least in F1M case, it's done according to Denuvo instructions and doesn't harm performance.

It's still perfectly fine to be against DRM's existence in general. But "Denuvo functions bad" has always been the same negative PR as Unity used to have when they forced anyone using the free version to pop up the Unity logo on their poorly made garbage. Hammering a screw into place isn't the fault of the screw.
Plattfuss79 Jul 1, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
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Omnipotencia Jul 9, 2024 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Andy:
Originally posted by Sethiusdrvn:
devuno doesn't stop pirates from getting around it anyway. what did it delay for hogwarts legacy? 4 days. wow. that's millions of money well spent .... took the programers for that game months on end to fix performance problems because of devu.
That's not accurate.
As crap as denuvo is, it is for the most part successful. There's been a few notible exceptions, but they remain just that.
Hogwarts legacy took about 2 weeks to crack, and those that downloaded it got malware.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3844431603865733712/
Hardly a viable choice.

F1 2023 is still not cracked.
https://cwwatch.net/f1-23/

So, to say it's made no difference here isn't accurate at all.
The bulk of a games sales happen in the first few months. So given denuvo games that do get cracked are often many months down the line. It does mean the devs don't loose out on much of the revenue from the bulk of the sales happening shortly after release.
Denuvo is also sold as a time limited product that needs to continually be paid for, so sometimes find games dropping it after a year any way.

Even though it saps your system, giving the game worse performance. It's record against being pirated, and being pirated early in games life cycle is very good.

except no it doesn't, piracy is actually beneficial to games increasing sales by 20% as an EU analysis showed that's why they conveniently hid it away hoping no one would notice.

if you see anything with denuvo that tells you the company doesnt give a damn and couldnt care less about the game. also they have no confidence in their own product actually selling, if they have no confidence why would any consumer with common sense have confidence. a good product will sell either way.

if i see denuvo it is immediate ignore list especially when linux compatibility means you only get to check 5 times before the bs activation limit kicks in, or you know just wait for it just be broken in 3 or 4 years and get a version that doesnt require jumping through hoops and as a bonus is free, well technically not but your pc becoming a semi bot network is a tradeoff, see how that works, see how the pirates end up giving people the pro consumer option instead of the actual company.

people already have enough games or can go download things elsewhere that the few games with denuvo are a drop in the water compared to whats available, people will usually pirate to try things as a demo, and there is usually things a pirated version cant do that make it worse so people buy to have mod compatibility and what not but when it isnt doing the rounds people dont give it a second look which means it gets lost in the 50,000 other games on steam :)

as for malware yeh that happens if you dont scan things or dont go for a clean repack lmao, i mean hell even the repack in of themselves make it good for backup that admittedly even valve lacks low sized compressed setups

and sales saved in the first few months lmao if people will buy it they will buy it again its confidence in the product, a pirate will just wait it out if they are already pirating stuff i hate to break it to people but they already have 20,000 + games that they could play each day and never get through them all you really think they cant just wait?

Denuvo is scamming the game companies and telling them what they want to hear, they realised telling them it protects the first 2 weeks of sales gets companies to use them, they fail to mention how it looses them 20% overall sales though, damages their reputation ect.

which goes to the final point the fact that a company cant do a bit of research to find the EU reports on piracy and realise actually it might be a good thing also tells you the company has no confidence at all and probably needs to do something else instead that they are confident in,

movies books and music were negatively affected by piracy though so i'll give you that, with music being the most affected then movies then books, music is its own category though really.
Last edited by Omnipotencia; Jul 9, 2024 @ 3:44pm
werwolfgaming Jul 10, 2024 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Sethiusdrvn:
devuno doesn't stop pirates from getting around it anyway. what did it delay for hogwarts legacy? 4 days. wow. that's millions of money well spent .... took the programers for that game months on end to fix performance problems because of devu.
It does now since empress the last person in the cracking scene that specialized in cracking denuvo went silent about a year ago no one else is even intrested in cracking denuvo games it takes too long with little to 0 pay for them and comes with risks off going to jail for it,

Rn theres no cracker willing to crack denuvo games so most off them will be left uncracked untill denuvo is removed
Andy Jul 10, 2024 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Omnipotencia:

except no it doesn't, piracy is actually beneficial to games increasing sales by 20% as an EU analysis showed that's why they conveniently hid it away hoping no one would notice.
You mean this one?
https://felixreda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf
Because, it certainly doesn't.
TimeShot Aug 16, 2024 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by ★ PerroSanxe ★:
Originally posted by Caffeinated Dinosaur:
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bay?
werwolfgaming Aug 16, 2024 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by TimeShot:
Originally posted by ★ PerroSanxe ★:
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bay?
Whats this bay?
Sorry, Denuvo got 25 cancelled
sorry , not sorry
MattP Mar 2 @ 8:39pm 
never stopped me from buying a game.
Andy Mar 3 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by MattP:
never stopped me from buying a game.
For many people it does. And, probably should have a greater factor in your decision the worse you PC is.
There are side by side comparisons of games that have had denuvo removed on youtube. Nearly every game tested with and without shows loading times, FPS, 1 & 0.1% lows, minimum fps etc improved without.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07NMuobVVwQ
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