warrior is terrible!!!!!

[Savvy]

i'm warrior mastery 52...

but it's terrible

dont play warrior


Warriors do not have anything good point

nothing all


low speed, low power, high delay..........

[Star Paladin]

I think that the cooldown for the Valk's spear charge, "after" it is completed, should be exactly as long as the time it takes the Barb to charge up his charge, it would be perfect. And that's from someone who loves the Valk.

If I knew I could not spear charge again a split second after each charge, I sure as heck would not spam it as my attack 80% of the time. And then the Barb charge would seem more viable to boot.

[Casey]

I feel like the only person who thinks the Warrior > Valkyrie. Better CC, better survivability, pretty huge damage output with the right relics (notably, attack speed), can assassinate enemy mages with one hit and crowd control people at the same time... I'd rather have a Warrior running interference while wizard/elves stand back and kill the summoning stones. That has been my method of coasting through Unfair dungeons, anyway.

[JackBaldy]

Цитата допису Casey:

I feel like the only person who thinks the Warrior > Valkyrie. Better CC, better survivability, pretty huge damage output with the right relics (notably, attack speed), can assassinate enemy mages with one hit and crowd control people at the same time... I'd rather have a Warrior running interference while wizard/elves stand back and kill the summoning stones. That has been my method of coasting through Unfair dungeons, anyway.

Warrior > Valkyrie? Said no sane person ever. Ever. Ever.

[Stonehaven]

Цитата допису Rise of Chaos:

The spear thrust of the valkyrie puts you in the same vulnerable state, why is it better than the warrior who has similar mechanics?

I havent played valkyrie but i can tell it doesnt put you in the same vulnerable state. that spear move can be done over and over again looks as if theres no cooldown as i see when im playing with friend or a random group.

The warriors charge move can not be done on the fly because the charge time so it can not be used to get you out from mobs if ur surrounded, you just gotta hope your spin move pops again. it would be better to change the charge time into a cooldown time.

[Star Paladin]

The Valks Spear Charge does have a cooldown; it's cooldown is exactly as long as it takes to repostion the mouse pointer and click the mouse button. ;) That fact that she kills pretty much everything inbetween the charge and the cooldown makes it all the more jaw dropping.

Seriously, I love Miss V, but that charge is too OP. They need to nerf her charge a bit, or give the Barb something anywhere near as amazing.

[JackBaldy]

Truth be told, regardless of how people feel about the Valkyrie's state of current power, this thread is about the Warrior being underpowered. Just sayin'.

[Insufferable Smartypants]

Цитата допису Star Paladin:

If you try to do your job with Thor, which is staying in melee, he just takes continual damage no matter how skilled you get.

I've seen some very skilled Thor players manage their enemy and keep them all within their cleave arc. Every time the warrior got surrounded, he'd cleave the one behind him (which stuns the enemy for about a second) and slip back in position, then keep going.

I'm not very good at it yet, personally, but I'm getting better. It's pretty amazing to watch because I thought Thor was a terrible class at first, but seeing is believing.

[JackBaldy]

Цитата допису Joe Randim:

I've seen some very skilled Thor players manage their enemy and keep them all within their cleave arc. Every time the warrior got surrounded, he'd cleave the one behind him (which stuns the enemy for about a second) and slip back in position, then keep going.

I'm not very good at it yet, personally, but I'm getting better. It's pretty amazing to watch because I thought Thor was a terrible class at first, but seeing is believing.

So because Thor is not unplayable that means he's not a terrible class? I beg to differ. He's far more terrible than all the other classes and what he's somewhat decent at does not make up for all his shortcomings.

[Mr. Pink]

Цитата допису Joe Randim:

I've seen some very skilled Thor players manage their enemy and keep them all within their cleave arc. Every time the warrior got surrounded, he'd cleave the one behind him (which stuns the enemy for about a second) and slip back in position, then keep going.

I'm not very good at it yet, personally, but I'm getting better. It's pretty amazing to watch because I thought Thor was a terrible class at first, but seeing is believing.

Yet he shouldn't have to do that, his attacks should be killing and not just staggering a bunch of enemies so other heroes can swoop in to rescue him from the horde of monsters he's gathered.

The time it takes you to do all that fancy footwork and hitting or rather kiting of enemies you'll be hoping a ranged enemy doesn't spawn and mess up the rhythm because you don't have a reliable dodge to get out of the situation without taking a hit.

Meanwhile the grown ups are actually killing and destroying summoning stones instead of keeping spawns company.

[BridgetFisher]

i think when the warrior swings it should also deflect like the shield?

[IIFriggII]

currently at unfair last captor: valk and wiz just owns compared to the others (wiz because of the crazy CC, valk because of the 1 shotting spear..)
some idea's i think would help.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/258970/discussions/0/613937306690273100/

[Grizzledorf]

warriors are great party members especially in 2 man groups. warrior+elf on hard mode can kick some serious ass

[JackBaldy]

Цитата допису SnowRyder:

warrior is fine .... people who complain are most likely the same that complained about barb in diablo 3 lmao you are just bad when u die a lot with warrior and thats it!

Or perhaps it is quite possible that the Warrior is terrible for a myriad of reasons that have been listed previously. But of course, it's easier for those with low intellect to default to the typical internet "LoLuMaD?" argument.

Цитата допису .ZeRo|*Grizzledorf*:

warriors are great party members especially in 2 man groups. warrior+elf on hard mode can kick some serious ass

Hate to break it to you but the Elf would be better served by playing duo with any other class. And seriously, hard mode? Why not bring easy mode into the equation, shall we? o.O ...

There's quite a significant difference between UNPLAYABLE and UNDERPOWERED. That seems to be the main key factor that a lot of people are missing here. The Warrior is not unplayable, however, he is quite UNDERPOWERED in many aspects. Many.

Choosing to turn a blind eye to how blatantly underpowered the Warrior is just because he's not unplayable is rather absurd in my opinion.

[Stonehaven]

Цитата допису Joe Randim:

Цитата допису Star Paladin:

If you try to do your job with Thor, which is staying in melee, he just takes continual damage no matter how skilled you get.

I've seen some very skilled Thor players manage their enemy and keep them all within their cleave arc. Every time the warrior got surrounded, he'd cleave the one behind him (which stuns the enemy for about a second) and slip back in position, then keep going.

I'm not very good at it yet, personally, but I'm getting better. It's pretty amazing to watch because I thought Thor was a terrible class at first, but seeing is believing.

He is a good class but hes just a slower paced character compaired to the other classes, I always come out at the lowerer end of points for gold and kills after each dungeon while playing with equaly skilled players but I use him exclusively because thats the way my group of friends planed to play when we preordered and id rather just master all the dufficulties with one character at a time, next is going to be Elf ust have to finish the last few hard dungeons then unfair lol

[28 Beers Later]

i lerned to hate the fireball throwers in the last level section, every other class has a dodge/block ability, thor just gets stunlocked, whirlwind is not fast enough to get him out of trouble and fancy footwork is not always an option due to being surrounded