Wizard vs. The Other Classes

[Magpie]

You can't refute: the Elf, Warrior and Valkyrie all require significantly less skill than the wizard and are subsequently pretty worthless compared to him.

"Jack of All Trades" is what I'd call the Wizard, but even then his viability is absolutely insane thanks to his arsenal of spells. Every other class only has about 3-4~ means of actually dishing out damage, and usually this causes them to fall hard on their ass in certain spots.

I'm not complaining all too much because the game is still great fun, but when I'm playing with a friend who mains the Wizard, I feel like (because I am) completely worthless in comparison.

Aside from the Wizard's relatively slow attack rate and inability to dodge besides that one, somewhat-lengthy cooldown fireball teleport, he's simply unstoppable at effortlessly killing everything. Abilities like his AoE ice blast slow as well as his chain lightning and fireball's essentially OHKO'ing any scraps and doing hefty damage to mid-tier enemies is absurd.

And for the record, I honestly don't believe "But he's harder to play" is a very good excuse... because he's not. He has depth. Depth =/= difficulty. Maybe if you're bad at games it does.


Meanwhile, I'm playing as the Elf and let me list all that I can do:

• Shoot a basic arrow
  
• Shoot a charged arrow
  
• Drop a bomb
  
• Shoot a projectile bomb
  
• Roll away

This is everything I can do, and my entire listing is shorter than the Wizard's talents.

On top of that, my basic arrows don't do damage to those Summoning Towers. My charged arrows do only a tiny amount, and my bombs (thankfully) do a large amount but leave me stuck on a lenghy cooldown before I'm able to follow it up again.
Meanwhile, from what I've seen of my friend playing with me, absolutely every one of his offensive magics do damage to the tower, and he can attack it in a far more practical and safe manner.

I understand this game has 'classes' and therefore you're meant to fit a particular 'role', and I can see that. I'm meant to be hitting pot-shots and one-hitting most mid-tier enemies such as the staff wielding enemies to eliminate their projectiles and other abilities but... that's about it.


I'm not ranting, I'm not asking for a buff, I'm not asking for a nerf, but I would like some of your opinions on what you think of the Wizard being (pretty much) objectively more useful than the other classes with his current abilities.

Also, for the love of god, I know this is the Steam forums and there'll be at least one idiot playing the Devil's Advocate who will pinpoint something I've said to just choke me on it, so if you're that person, just please shut up and maybe provide for a healthier conversation.

[bill]

play valk and watch your wizard friend cry

valkyrie outclasses everyone

[Solinarius☕]

I'm sure if you got Arrowhead's opinion on magic and wizards, it would be that they are not meant to be fair, and that's how they like it. They like magic, their games show it.

[Maddie]

My opinion on the Wizard being objectively the best class is that you're objectively wrong. Valkyrie outclasses everything.

[Solinarius☕]

Originally posted by Chad:

My opinion on the Wizard being objectively the best class is that you're objectively wrong. Valkyrie outclasses everything.

With or without animation canceling? I don't play Thyra as much as the others, so I wouldn't know, nor have I seen a competant player. From my perspective, it seems much easier to solo in a 4 player game with Merlin than with Thyra, especially on Unfair.

[CryonicSuspension]

I actually find the Valkyrie, the most difficult to play with because her damage is so low and her utility seems weak. Merlin needs someone to tank and Elf is great at clearing trash with his arrow bomb.

[ArchAnge1LT]

Wizard being the jack of all trades, and when used correctly is really best support cause his many abilities persist and apply area or duration effects. I agree that he is more useful for "team" than other classes, but not in every situation and not everytime.

Devs nailed every level pretty well, where there are spawners. On unfair when the "swarm" mode is on with multiple spawners, though, there are times when other classes outshine wizard cause you need pinpoint accuracy in taking out key enemies (mostly act 2 and 3 casters), and mostly it is done by valkyrie charge, cause she can reach unreachable things by elf or wizard. I left out warr, cause he though less effectively "can" do the same job.

Valk though is not far behind in usefulness cause of her a bit broken spear charge. Its not the damage, its not the range, its near invulnerability when you spam lock it "corrrectly".

[Solinarius☕]

Valkyrie can one-shot just about everything with her spear and it can be spammed with impunity. Merlin does not need a tank at all but it certainly helps in regards to Ice Beam.

[Toaster Bath]

From expiriance, the wizard is great, but i'd rather have a warrior and valky by my side for unfair.