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To completely dismantle the HRE you'll have to occupy the capitals of all 5 electors, or have them vassalized, then occupy the HRE's capital city, go back to the HRE menu and click Dismantle HRE.
In my Hansa game I had like 5 or 6 vassals when I finally felt like I was ready to piss off the HRE. Nothing more powerful in this game than a unified Germany though! Talk about god-mode enabled;)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=155847284
There are several strategies and things you need to do. So here we go.
Royal Marriages: Use them, great way to get prestige, however be careful with Personal Unions, if you're small it can be dicey trying to keep them.
Always ask "Is the Emperor busy?" Keep an eye on the Emperor. If the Emperor (Bohemia) is fighting Austria, that is a good time to expand.
Vassals are you friends: Get vassals to begin with, then you can control your growth. Don't overdo it though. Keeping your infamy low will be vital to your economic health. Get Free Trade ASAP and Plutocracy (optional). It's worth it.
If you're a small state don't be afraid to switch out national ideas to get a Casus Beli. Maybe a religion CB will come along. In my Saxony game, I become a Merchant Republic to get a CB on Hansa, then I expanded into Hansa and vassalized a bunch of Hanseatic Allies in the war.
Don't wait on cores: Sometimes they simply won't come, so you need pick your opportunities. Personally, I say leave the Empire ASAP, rather than try to stay in it and work within that framework. The wars will be trickier, but long term, it's worth it.
The Emperor will always be a problem: Every time you go to war, assume the Emperor is coming and be prepared. Don't hope he won't.
When you go to war, make sure you have the magistrates to remove new gains from the Empire ASAP.
Overall it's a difficult endeavor and it requires you NOT to speed 5 through the game... you have to keep a watchful eye on Europe and when the opportunity comes, use it wisey. The key to be powerful in Germany, is knowing what war will make you. There is always at least one war, that spins completely out of control, from that chaos you can usually grow.
Focus on trade, and vassalize small nations. The trade and added forcelimits from the vassals allows you to field a fairly large army. So keeping infamy low-ish is VERY important. Always have cash incase that perfect opportunity strikes, so you can throw down cash for a lot of Mercs and grab what you need. It WILL be painful economically, however, just getting like 2-3 provinces will make a world of difference.
Lastly, patience. Just be patient. You will succeed but you're going to have to watch things closely and do a little waiting.
Is there a reason you prefer to vassalize the smaller states? I normally try and vassalize the larger ones first (not Bohemia or anything, I meant like Hesse, Brabant etc.)
They can throw more troops into the fight, and when you do annex them, the total infamy cost is lower, being that vassalizing costs 4 infamy regardless of size.
I'm not criticizing, I'm just wondering if you had figured out something I hadn't :)
Annexing a 1 province minor costs 5 infamy, annexing the Hessians costs 7, but you the cost per territory is lower.
That was my thinking anyway.
Annexing a 1 province minor costs 5 infamy, annexing the Hessians costs 7, but you the cost per territory is lower.
That was my thinking anyway.
Annexing a 1 province minor costs 5 infamy, annexing the Hessians costs 7, but you the cost per territory is lower.
That was my thinking anyway.
Annexing a 1 province minor costs 5 infamy, annexing the Hessians costs 7, but you the cost per territory is lower.
That was my thinking anyway.
Well I was speaking from the perspective of an OPM. So, usually vassalizing other OPM's is easy. One of the things to keep in mind with vassalizing larger states is annexing them later on. If you annex, for example, a 4 territory state... and you're not quick about remoiving it from the Empire, that's a total of 1 infamy for simply holding imperial territory. Ideally you would have the magistrates, but there's no guarantees. Sometimes, when getting 2ish magistrates a year you can forget you need to save them or something else.
Vassalizing in almost every case is less infamy. Annexing an opm can be 8 infamy, so you're saving anyways. Also, it's usually the path of least resistance. It's more of a risk/reward perspective... getting into a war with larger states as an OPM is NOT ideal. I learned that the hard way as Saxony.. with Bohemia, Brandenburg and Thuringia next to me... grabbing the "low hanging fruit" is the best way to start, in my opinion.