Why Talos is a robot?

[Goneja]

He was supposed to be a statue, that kills everyone on Argo

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[Silverfish003]

Didn't understand the question at first, thought it was a meme post in the first place. Not good at explaining things, but I'll try:

There were two Talos' in Greek mythology - Daedalus' nephew known as Talos of Athens and the one who tried to slaughter on Argo (Iason and the golden fleece tale). The latter is the more important - Talos is not a human being (he was made out of bronze), BUT has all properties of a human. He has wishes and desires, blah blah blah. He is a machine. Another important thing is that he's conscious. What is consciousness is another question of The Talos Principle. To make things easier, let's agree that it means to be able to have feelings.

He died when he accidentaly cut his vein and lost a specific liquid that kept him alive (just like people have blood, he had ichor or smh flowing through his veins)

It's the question Talos Principle attempts to answer. Talos was conscious and human is obviously as well. The question then becomes whether humans are machines as well. You could say humans are machines after all - our body is a machine that as long as it works and is running, we are alive and therefore, conscious. When the machine loses the life giving liquid, it's game over for either of the two.

I think the implementation of Talos as the robot attemps to illustrate that the mythological Talos was robot as well. They gave him human traits, which is the player himself. And built the story on it.

[Goneja]

They have sci-fi tech in mythology times?

[Silverfish003]

By the way, in the games it's said that Talos was constructed by Daedalus, but his origins are actually unknown and neither of the tales nor variations of them have Daedalus as the creator. It's said it was either Zeus who summoned him to the island or by Hepheaestus on Zeus's demand. The reason why I mentioned Daedalus's nephew in my post is that he wore the same name but had nothing to do with the bronze Talos.

[Silverfish003]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

They have sci-fi tech in mythology times?

Most of Greek mythology is sci-fi and they are just tales written by people. People wanted to explain most of phenomenons such as seasons, tsunamis, ecosystems, love etc. They created the gods and assigned these phenomenons to them as their cause and job to maintain. And of course for fun. Garden of hesperides, cretan bull, golden fleece, medusa, the gods on mount Olympus, the underworld where the dead are transported by charon on a boat...

You have to agree that the stories are fun to read and learn about.

[Goneja]

Originally posted by Silverfish003:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

They have sci-fi tech in mythology times?

Most of Greek mythology is sci-fi and they are just tales written by people. People wanted to explain most of phenomenons such as seasons, tsunamis, ecosystems, love etc. They created the gods and assigned these phenomenons to them as their cause and job to maintain. And of course for fun. Garden of hesperides, cretan bull, golden fleece, medusa, the gods on mount Olympus, the underworld where the dead are transported by charon on a boat...

You have to agree that the stories are fun to read and learn about.

Who created this robot and why he is in the mythology times and god talking to him?

[Silverfish003]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

Originally posted by Silverfish003:

Most of Greek mythology is sci-fi and they are just tales written by people. People wanted to explain most of phenomenons such as seasons, tsunamis, ecosystems, love etc. They created the gods and assigned these phenomenons to them as their cause and job to maintain. And of course for fun. Garden of hesperides, cretan bull, golden fleece, medusa, the gods on mount Olympus, the underworld where the dead are transported by charon on a boat...

You have to agree that the stories are fun to read and learn about.

Who created this robot and why he is in the mythology times and god talking to him?

The true creator is unknown and different variations of the tale has different creators of him. The reason why he was on the island was to be its guardian.

In The Talos Principle's simulation, the three environments represent three major parts of human history, such as ancient Rome and ancient Egypt. The God, ELOHIM, was meant to be a guide to the AIs in there. He just grew far beyond his initial programming and tried sabotaging the simulation, in that way he "lives forever".

[Goneja]

Originally posted by Silverfish003:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

Who created this robot and why he is in the mythology times and god talking to him?

The true creator is unknown and different variations of the tale has different creators of him. The reason why he was on the island was to be its guardian.

In The Talos Principle's simulation, the three environments represent three major parts of human history, such as ancient Rome and ancient Egypt. The God, ELOHIM, was meant to be a guide to the AIs in there. He just grew far beyond his initial programming and tried sabotaging the simulation, in that way he "lives forever".

So we have to kill god, right?

[Silverfish003]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

Originally posted by Silverfish003:

The true creator is unknown and different variations of the tale has different creators of him. The reason why he was on the island was to be its guardian.

In The Talos Principle's simulation, the three environments represent three major parts of human history, such as ancient Rome and ancient Egypt. The God, ELOHIM, was meant to be a guide to the AIs in there. He just grew far beyond his initial programming and tried sabotaging the simulation, in that way he "lives forever".

So we have to kill god, right?

ELOHIM feared his end, which would happen if the simulation's purpose (find the one true "human" AI with free will among the other ones) was completed. That's why he kept doing what he was doing. He was an AI god that simply was afraid to die.

[Goneja]

Originally posted by Silverfish003:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

So we have to kill god, right?

ELOHIM feared his end, which would happen if the simulation's purpose (find the one true "human" AI with free will among the other ones) was completed. That's why he kept doing what he was doing. He was an AI god that simply was afraid to die.

AI god? So in others mythologies all of them are ai too?

[Silverfish003]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

Originally posted by Silverfish003:

ELOHIM feared his end, which would happen if the simulation's purpose (find the one true "human" AI with free will among the other ones) was completed. That's why he kept doing what he was doing. He was an AI god that simply was afraid to die.

AI god? So in others mythologies all of them are ai too?

No, the god in the game is AI.

Everything I said in the spoiler parts of my messages is regarding only the game itself.

[Goneja]

Originally posted by Silverfish003:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡ムの刀乇ﾌﾑ:

AI god? So in others mythologies all of them are ai too?

No, the god in the game is AI.

Everything I said in the spoiler parts of my messages is regarding only the game itself.

So, in other mythologies the god were real, thank god

[Sputnik]

I'd add my two cents here if I wasn't too lazy. Read this though if you want:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2859102058