The Talos Principle

The Talos Principle

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Szynek Jun 18, 2023 @ 6:22am
Puzzle workarounds (possible spoilers?)
So I was kind of annoyed by this Labyrinth "puzzle", I mean I don't think it was going to be particularly difficult (at least when it comes to mental skills), but it seemed to me as it would require a lot of running around, and close encounters (which equals instant failure state), so after a 3rd failure, I decided to look for alternative route.

Then I remembered, some time before I found a rock (that I haven't figured out the legitimate purpose of yet). After some running around the puzzle area, I figured that I can just place the rock outside of the wall, then do one precise jump, and get to the end.

--> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4se9l9i5kbr3po/bandicam%202023-06-18%2014-48-18-523.mp4?dl=0

I just wanted to share this solution in case of somebody having similar problems, apparently the game doesn't "lock" you to the one "right" solution. Honestly, I kind of suspected that, as I had couple of times before when I was like "I wonder if this was intended solution", especially when I barely escaped some turret and/or navigated lasers through some veeery narrow spaces.

I also wonder to what extent the devs were aware of workarounds like this. I have to assume, that there was a reason for placing the rock there (probably it is there to get to some bonus star), it's just that I used it in a different way. On the other hand though, it seems weird to me, that they would place such a low wall in this one specific place, and then made something that almost seems like intended pathway, just in case somebody actually got through there. Anyway, I applaud that kind of things (kind of reminds of Deus Ex's mine climbing), please don't patch it ;)
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exe Jun 18, 2023 @ 6:47am 
This is not the intended solution (when you are forced to reset after your solution, you know it is not the intended solution) but this is a fun hack. TTP doesn't force the player to one (the intended) solution but allows to play differently.

I am redoing all puzzles in TTP and the more I replay them, the easier they become. So all puzzles in the base game of TTP is much less of a challenge then when I first played TTP. The first time I played this puzzle and certainly The Nervewrecker (the Star world in hub A) I find them less intimidating and less scary.

That 'rock' you are carrying is not a rock but a piece of the Gnaar. When you find all pieces and put them together in the intended place, the Gnaar blasts into the sky like a rocket (not 'rock'et hahaha).

Maybe because of the low wall there, this could be intended as an alternative solution.
Come to think of it, how about the star outside of all puzzles in this level? Is the wall there to be low enough for this too? I will try this.
Szynek Jun 18, 2023 @ 7:42am 
Originally posted by exe:
Come to think of it, how about the star outside of all puzzles in this level? Is the wall there to be low enough for this too? I will try this.
The one that I know of, is behind a force-field, with laser lock (don't know if there are others, I didn't try to hunt for secrets yet). I'm pretty sure I know how to un-lock it (there are holes in the walls outside of the puzzle area + multiple holes in one of the puzzle areas, that have lasers already), but I'm not sure how to disable one turret that defends tripods outside (though I suspect you can probably just point device at it from inside of one of the puzzle areas).

You can give it a try if you want, IIRC it is in the first area of C section (right side from the tower).
exe Jun 18, 2023 @ 9:10am 
I know the intended solution for this star already, but I was just thinking about jumping over the wall with the help of a "rock".
Szynek Jun 18, 2023 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by exe:
I know the intended solution for this star already, but I was just thinking about jumping over the wall with the help of a "rock".
I think it was too high for that tbh (I haven't tried it though).
exe Jun 18, 2023 @ 9:35am 
I tried but it is too high for that star.
Hsanrb Jun 20, 2023 @ 12:45am 
Wait until the OP finds out about Rapunzel... pretty sure you never have to do a single puzzle the intended way in the whole world...
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Date Posted: Jun 18, 2023 @ 6:22am
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