Serious Sam 4

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waxpants Sep 29, 2020 @ 2:27pm
WHY IS THERE NO LOCAL SPLIT SCREEN ??!
why do developers keep doing this when more people have there PC hooked up to a TV than ever
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Fax_the_Sender Oct 4, 2020 @ 6:31am 
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won't be buying this one because of no split screen, also it's not even being added to fusion either.

so much for a the hub for future games...
-GK- Paladin Oct 4, 2020 @ 6:46am 
Hardware limitations might prevent it at this stage. If what someone else said is true,it possibly doubles PC resource needs. So I doubt any PC on the market currently could pull it in split screen then.
margalus Oct 4, 2020 @ 9:08am 
Because no person in there right mind would want that. Lan is the way to play...
superdarksoulsfan10 Oct 4, 2020 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by ⚔ Paladin ⚔:
Hardware limitations might prevent it at this stage. If what someone else said is true,it possibly doubles PC resource needs. So I doubt any PC on the market currently could pull it in split screen then.
Mine can lol
-GK- Paladin Oct 4, 2020 @ 9:45am 
Originally posted by Outrageous Videos:
Originally posted by ⚔ Paladin ⚔:
Hardware limitations might prevent it at this stage. If what someone else said is true,it possibly doubles PC resource needs. So I doubt any PC on the market currently could pull it in split screen then.
Mine can lol
Well,I suppose only the developers of the game would know if it could or could not if they knew your hardware specifications. I'm not a tech guru. All I know is self taught and by hard experience.
Originally posted by ⚔ Paladin ⚔:
Originally posted by Outrageous Videos:
Mine can lol
Well,I suppose only the developers of the game would know if it could or could not if they knew your hardware specifications. I'm not a tech guru. All I know is self taught and by hard experience.

they cut it out mid-development, it was announced.

Split screen is a major staple of the series. Original games had it when monitors were bulky, 17 inches and 1024x768 resolutions, gamepads on PC were using gameport, mice used ps/2 and USB was barely a thing (most mobos had like 2 of them tops). Back then you couldn't simply hook up your PC to TV via HDMI and plug some controllers from any consoles on market plug-n-play. And yet, SS1 had 4 player split screen. It was massive struggle for feature that no one even thought was possible at the time. They implemented it because they wanted it.
2 and HD versions cut splitscreen and it was a massive complaint, so they added split screen in BFE, and added split screen retroactively back to HD versions in Fusion.

And now in 2020 they can't do it anymore? The game was rushed, simple as that. They cut corners like everywhere in order to bring it to release. Tbh should had delayed it for another half a year. But I guess the had to release it no matter what for that Stadia deal.
Last edited by that's what she said; Oct 4, 2020 @ 2:06pm
Roquen Oct 4, 2020 @ 11:54pm 
I just refunded my copy for this very reason. I don't understand why companies keep cutting out split screen on PC. To be clear there's plenty of games that still have split screen. Gears 5 is an example, on Xbox One. Yet, the PC port cut it out for versus and horde mode (but they kept it for the campaign?????). So it's not even a technical limitation. Objectively, most gaming PCs are more powerful than their console counterpart from which the game was ported. I think most of us would even be okay with a derpy implementation like "it's required that you only connect Xbox controllers in order to use split screen." I'd be happy with that as a middle ground for devs that don't want to figure out supporting multiple input types. I was so stoked for Serious Sam 4 and the initial announcements I read said there would be split screen, and now it's gone. If they add it later I'll buy it again, but yeah, split screen is literally the only reason I buy any Serious Sam titles.
Last edited by Roquen; Oct 5, 2020 @ 12:04am
nobleberry Oct 5, 2020 @ 12:38am 
Because it is Personal Computer, not shered computer.

because in 2020 we play over the internet. Even consoles now almost dropped split screen.
Fax_the_Sender Oct 5, 2020 @ 2:51am 
I don't know about anyone else but i'm getting real tired the same of dumb comments / opinions on pc split screen and how online co-op is supposedly better.

Online co-op is only really social if you are on two computers in the same room or if you have a friend online that is available to play at the same time you want to play.

Other than that you just play against randoms are that's not great and the usually all do their own thing.

plus with split screen you don't get booted from the game like you do in many games with online only co-op due to lag, bugs and connection issues.

Also bringing in games to the discussion that don't have or have never had split screen is just dumb.

There's nothing wrong with refunding a game because it's not feature complete.

This game is a rushed buggy stuttery incomplete mess.
Last edited by Fax_the_Sender; Oct 5, 2020 @ 2:52am
nobleberry Oct 5, 2020 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by Drahcir:
I don't know about anyone else but i'm getting real tired the same of dumb comments / opinions on pc split screen and how online co-op is supposedly better.

Online co-op is only really social if you are on two computers in the same room or if you have a friend online that is available to play at the same time you want to play.

Other than that you just play against randoms are that's not great and the usually all do their own thing.

plus with split screen you don't get booted from the game like you do in many games with online only co-op due to lag, bugs and connection issues.

Also bringing in games to the discussion that don't have or have never had split screen is just dumb.

There's nothing wrong with refunding a game because it's not feature complete.

This game is a rushed buggy stuttery incomplete mess.
how do you know if it is buggy? you didn't even played the game
I have no bugs.
Socks with jandals Oct 5, 2020 @ 3:49am 
ikr, i could have sworn this game used to be listed to have splitscreen. i cant believe even a serious sam game is ditching it. splitscreen is what made this franchise. they should be ashamed of themeselves. i for one have literally no interest in playing this now. was looking forward to reliving old times playing this game with a few mates or my brother. we had good times in the previous games. shame. gaming used to be about fun, laughing and hanging out with people in the same rooom. now its about isolation and competition. taking things waaay too seriously. everyone thinks they are a professional e league champion. just want to practice the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over again for hours instead of just some casual fun with mates.
with the perfomrance of modern pc's, the widespread availability of big screens, the ease of plugging a tv into a pc. the ease of multimonitor splitscreen these days. there is no excuse for not inculding splitscreen on pc. this game is/ was famous for it. heck the first ones had it and they are very very very old games now, running on potato pc's
Socks with jandals Oct 5, 2020 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by margalus:
Because no person in there right mind would want that. Lan is the way to play...
you can do thie exact same bloody thing with modern pc.s. whithout having to own two pc's and two copies of the game.
splitscreen while setting up in nvidia control panel a single virtual monitor from two physical monitors, split the orientation and you have a full high resolution screen each. with the performance of modern pc's the bad graphics of serious sam. easy. super easy. if consoles can do splitscreen so can a freaking pc. or if you just want some casual fun, use a big tv. a big 4k tv will give each player plenty of screen space and resolution. and screen cheating can be fun. or agree not to do it and then dont. up to you. lan is great. if you have friends happy to lug their big watercooled computer over to your house every damn time you want some casual multiplayer in person. but that is not very convenient.
Originally posted by that's what she said:
Originally posted by ⚔ Paladin ⚔:
Well,I suppose only the developers of the game would know if it could or could not if they knew your hardware specifications. I'm not a tech guru. All I know is self taught and by hard experience.

they cut it out mid-development, it was announced.

Split screen is a major staple of the series. Original games had it when monitors were bulky, 17 inches and 1024x768 resolutions, gamepads on PC were using gameport, mice used ps/2 and USB was barely a thing (most mobos had like 2 of them tops). Back then you couldn't simply hook up your PC to TV via HDMI and plug some controllers from any consoles on market plug-n-play. And yet, SS1 had 4 player split screen. It was massive struggle for feature that no one even thought was possible at the time. They implemented it because they wanted it.
2 and HD versions cut splitscreen and it was a massive complaint, so they added split screen in BFE, and added split screen retroactively back to HD versions in Fusion.

And now in 2020 they can't do it anymore? The game was rushed, simple as that. They cut corners like everywhere in order to bring it to release. Tbh should had delayed it for another half a year. But I guess the had to release it no matter what for that Stadia deal.
+1
Originally posted by Roquen:
I just refunded my copy for this very reason. I don't understand why companies keep cutting out split screen on PC. To be clear there's plenty of games that still have split screen. Gears 5 is an example, on Xbox One. Yet, the PC port cut it out for versus and horde mode (but they kept it for the campaign?????). So it's not even a technical limitation. Objectively, most gaming PCs are more powerful than their console counterpart from which the game was ported. I think most of us would even be okay with a derpy implementation like "it's required that you only connect Xbox controllers in order to use split screen." I'd be happy with that as a middle ground for devs that don't want to figure out supporting multiple input types. I was so stoked for Serious Sam 4 and the initial announcements I read said there would be split screen, and now it's gone. If they add it later I'll buy it again, but yeah, split screen is literally the only reason I buy any Serious Sam titles.
ikr, weird. its great gears 5 has splitscreen for campaign. but i would almost prefer to have it for horde or multiplayer with bots. i remember having a lot of fun back in the day in those modes on xbox 360. but i have left consoles long behind. i far prefer gaming pc's. the only limintation being their insistance to cripple the platform removing features to pc ports such as splitscreen.
at least halo infinite will have splitscreen. and we still have some good classics with it, and emualtors to run old console games with splitscreen upped to 4k60 etc.and they might.. might.. be adding it into halo mcc after all the complaints. why the f they thought they could remove splitscreen from halo i will never know. its a damn staple of the series. same as with serious sam. croteam have lost all my respect and i do not plan to every buy any of their products again. not until they go back to their roots and return splitscreen to its rightful place.
Originally posted by cereal killer:
Originally posted by Roquen:
I just refunded my copy for this very reason. I don't understand why companies keep cutting out split screen on PC. To be clear there's plenty of games that still have split screen. Gears 5 is an example, on Xbox One. Yet, the PC port cut it out for versus and horde mode (but they kept it for the campaign?????). So it's not even a technical limitation. Objectively, most gaming PCs are more powerful than their console counterpart from which the game was ported. I think most of us would even be okay with a derpy implementation like "it's required that you only connect Xbox controllers in order to use split screen." I'd be happy with that as a middle ground for devs that don't want to figure out supporting multiple input types. I was so stoked for Serious Sam 4 and the initial announcements I read said there would be split screen, and now it's gone. If they add it later I'll buy it again, but yeah, split screen is literally the only reason I buy any Serious Sam titles.
Skyrim and witcher 3 also don't have split screen, why didn't you refund them as well? Not a gamebreaking flaw after all, right? Didn't prevent you from playing them for hundreds of hours, yep?
wtf kind of a statement is that mate. stop trolling. those games prequels did not have splitscreen and they are not casual arcade games well sutied to splitscreen. serious sam games are famous for splitscreen, they are a casual, fun, couch co op style game. i would go so far as to say splitscreen is what made them famous to start with. and now they have removed it. such a different concept to what you are suggesting its from another dimension.
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