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class and that means she's a pretty good party member to have
around with those useful cleric spells. Unfortunately as she's
only a druid it means that she can't use the very handy
restoration spells.
Her personality is well cloaked in her voice, as she's a very
independent woman, and has the need to be in control of her own
fate. As you play out her romance you will soon find that she may
not be as fully in control of her own destiny as she might have
hoped. It seems ironic that she is a woman of balance as she is a
member of the Harpers yet she is not in balance emotionally under
your leadership. Thus the unbalance of her emotions and what she
thinks of your role as a child of Bhaal.
Diff: This romance ain't that difficult at all. Just a little common
sense much like Aerie's romance. It'll be medium difficulty but
it is also the most fun romance to play out compared with all the
others.
Hints: Like Aerie's romance you just need to choose the answers
that are basically suited to her style. Balance is the key thing
here and you want to maintain that you are fighting for the
balance of things. The fact that she later on comes out of the
Harper group is more emotional stress for her and so you have to
be a little bit understanding and sentimental. Remember don't use
violence all the time when you meet her Harper comrades who are
out for your blood. She will respect you more for this and it
will mean that her altitude towards you will be better. There
are several other sub-quests that you should do to make Jaheira
happy. First and foremost you must do Jaheira's Baron Ployer
quest. You can find him in the Bounty Sea tavern in the Docks.
Next do Xcar's Harper quest which will automatically take place
after you bring Renfield back to the Galverey Estate.
There are known problems with Jaheira's love quest. You MUST have
SHADOWKEEPER, otherwise you will not be able to complete the
entire story! Shadowkeeper is a trainer program and it is a
necessity. There are two main areas where Jaheira's romance may
seem to 'freeze'. The most common one is the appearance of Dermin
which should happen straight after LD23. If he does not appear,
use Shadow Keeper and under Jaheira's character portrait you
should be able to find the variable LOVETALK. Edit this value to
the one before it. This would mean that if you load up the
LOVETALK value and it is on 32 for example, set it to 31. Then
reload the game and the dialogue should appear again. After this
dialogue Dermin should appear. If he does not. Go to the area
just outside of the Copper Coronet in the Slums area and save your
game. Then do as I have mentioned above and Dermin should appear.
The other point of 'freezing is when Terminsel should appear to
give you the note that Jaheira had left behind for you.
Anyways without further ado we shall begin!
Steps:
LD1: 'Where to now, fearless leader?'
Choose option 3
'I'm...I'm sorry (char name). I do not wish to cause undue strain
in our party. I am merely a bit stressed and no doubt you are as
well'
Choose option 2
LD2: 'Hmmm...seems I cannot help but speak of the dead lately. I did not
want to cause you any distress if I have.'
Choose option 1
'They do at that. Do you...recall his tales? They could last for
days, a snippet at a time, here and there. He built a history so
it was like you were there.'
Choose option 2
'Yes, he sheltered you from those that would harm you. Khalid was
the same way, always taking the cautious path.'
Choose 'Slow and steady, lest mistakes be made. Good things come
in time.'
LD3: 'Ehh, I think I still have a stitch in my leg from lying in that
cold cell we were in. It is good to be up and moving.'
Choose option 1
'You did what you could and that is enough. I appreciate and I
also worry that you have suffered worse.'
Choose option 2
LD4: Jaheira has a bad dream. You will have to console her. Here's
how the dialogue goes:
'Nnn...No...NO!! Wh...wh...what?'
Choose option 1
'No, there is something very wrong. I...I have been having
nightmares, and when I awake, it is still there. Khalid...I thought
I was stronger than this.'
Choose option 2
LD5: 'A copper for your thoughts. You are looking rather pensive
today. Doubts about your current path perhaps?'
Choose option 1
'Is that your feeling? I was taught that we all had choice, but
then the great cycle likely did not count on divine interference.
You must feel pressure that I do not.'
Choose option 1
This next part is obvious. There's only one option!
LD6: Jaheira has another nightmare. Its another one of these things.
This is easy here we go!
Choose option 3
'He walked with us, from a distance. He smiled that I was
content. I guess...I guess I was.'
Choose option 1
LD7: 'Blast, our progress is not as it could be, I am sure. Ah,
perhaps it is just me. I grow tired of these pursuits. My life
was not always such'
Choose option 1
'It was like that for a long time, but I always felt that I should
do more. Balance needed to be...encouraged. I wouldn't let it
happen again.'
Choose option 1
LD7: 'I...This may be a bad time or not, but you asked a question of me
and I brushed it aside. I would speak of it now...if you still wish
to hear.'
Choose option 1
'I...I don't know why I didn't wish this known. Maybe I thought
such a history was unimportant by the standards of others...such
as...well...such as yourself.'
Choose option 2
LD8: 'We continue on our path and I cannot help but wonder if we walk
in balance. I have a role to follow.
Choose option 1
'Sometimes the proper course is hard to see, what is best overall
may seem barbaric at first. You will know this when...if you deal
with Harpers in the future.'
Choose option 2
LD9: '(char name), do you worry of missing friends? Or those missing
or...lost? Of course you do, I don't know what prompted me to ask'
Choose option 1
'I am becoming used to the aftermath of death, but I will not
forget what must be avenged. There must be closure. I must do
this even as I...as we...move on.'
Choose option 1
LD10: 'I do wish these scars would heal. I've a life to continue and do
not need to be picking at old wounds.'
Choose option 1
'True enough, but I think I was speaking of emotional markings.'
Choose option 1
LD11: 'This is a dangerous life we seem to lead, it does seem. I wonder
if you always think it will be so?
Choose option 1
'Have you...given any thought to this?'
Choose option 3
'Yes, I suppose your heritage adds a complicating factor. You
have a birthright, of a sort. I wonder what you intend to do with
it when age grants you wisdom.'
Choose option 2
LD12: This isn't a love dialogue or anything. Some bandits appear
and take Jaheira hostage. They will ask you for your valuables.
However, don't give them it. Instead tell them that you will be
their hostage instead. When Ertof Dand says, 'I think I got the
gist of it lassie. Well now she does not seem to think much of
your plan. What say you now valiant one?'
Choose option 1
After the fight she will say, 'Are...are you alright?'
Choose option 1
'Good, I am so glad...you IDIOT! What were you thinking? You could
have been killed! An arrow could pierce the heart or the eyes
when you stand like a pincushion!'
Choose option 1
LD13: Again, this is not a love dialogue but a woman called Meronia
appears and tells Jaheira to follow her. When Meronia tells
Jaheira to make her farewells quick and that she will not be gone
long choose option 1. Jaheira will leave your party for a while
until she finds you again.
LD14: Jaheira returns and tells you to go with her to the Harper Hold.
After she says:
'I have been asked to bring you, and we must go soon. They will
allow us to pass the wards of the door, but I must be with you,
and I must be conscious.'
Choose option 1
LD15: Once again this is not another love dialogue but a
confrontation with Galvarey. You can choose whatever option you
wish because it will lead invariably to violence. However I do
try and be civil for Jaheira's sake. It is also important to know
that when Galvarey decides to have you killed, Jaheira will ask
you if you would like her to fight alongside you against them.
Choose the option that says, 'I had hoped...I had hoped you would,
but I do not wish you to harm your friends.'
LD16: 'So, what do you think of Amn so far? It is certainly not without
its charms, or its hardships lately.'
Choose option 1
'Perhaps not. It has always been so, but there are many things of
merit here. Perhaps not in the cities, but the forests are a
great treasure.'
Choose option 2
'That is, if you have not tired of my company yet.'
Choose option 2
LD17: 'We have had many people seek our death so far. Some would have
been friends had things been different. This weighs on my mind.'
Choose option 3
The next dialogue is easy, there is only one option after all!
LD18: 'Again I must say how much I prefer the forest to artificial
structures. Everything I see simply reinforces that to no end.'
Choose option 3
'Yes, but must the gathering be done with such fervor? When
people assemble they attract those who want to lead. Why do they
not just accept their proper place?'
Choose option 1
'You are not a slave to your parentage though, and...I guess I am no
Harper.'
Choose option 1
LD19: 'I have been in a similar place as this before, though it was in
the company of other Harpers. I will miss those times.
Choose option 2
'I doubt that it will be that easy. Galvarey was as close to a
regional leader as the Harpers have. The events will be told in
his favour I am sure.
Choose option 1
LD20: This is another scene where Reviane spawns and tells Jaheira that
she will suffer a traitor's death. When Reviane asks Jaheira why
'this man should command so much value?' Choose option 1
When Jaheira says: 'You must do as you will Reviane. I have told
you the circumstance, there is little for me to say.'
Choose option 2
LD21: 'Skies are a bit gray no matter where we go, aren't they? Or
perhaps it is just my mood. Yes, that must be it. No wonder I
suppose. I cannot help but think of Reviane.'
Choose option 2
'I don't know. I begin to wish we had been wrong. It would be so
much simpler. I want to believe as they do, and I wish I didn't
feel like I...'
Choose option 2
'I am sorry (char name), I didn't mean to suggest anything.'
Choose option 2
LD22: 'This may be a bad time or not, but I think we should speak..'
Choose option 2
'Yes, well, I wished to apologize for our argument before. I
wanted...I wanted you to know why I cannot speak about the Harpers.
There is much harm I could do.'
Choose option 1
'If I am in the right, why must I tell you their secrets? If I am
in the right, why must I hide? I do not have answers for these
questions and they worry me.'
Choose option 1
'Yes, but can I? There is no middle ground. I am heading for an
extreme of either end. With you at least the choice is mine. It
is, isn't it?'
Choose option 2
LD23: 'There is an ill wind in the air. Do you feel it? I feel a storm
inside, in the distance.'
Choose option 3
'I don't know what I meant. They say you shiver when someone
walks over your grave. I feel as though something were marching
back and forth across mine.'
Choose option 2
LD24: 'Blast, my armour needs some cleaning.'
Choose option 2
'No, no, it wouldn't. I am sorry but this will take some time
again.'
Choose option 1
'Somewhat, I am far from my old self however. I thank you for
putting up with me.'
Choose option 1
'Yes...yes, I suppose I have. How much did I do for you however,
and how much was for me alone?'
Choose option 1
LD25: 'Your old injuries feeling alright? I thought I saw you wince a
moment ago.'
Choose option 1
'I...I am flattered, I suppose.'
Choose option 1
LD26: 'So...could I...have a few moments of your time?'
Choose option 2
'Thank you, I wished to speak of the future a bit. I know we have
discussed this in brief before, but I need to clarify a few
things.'
Choose option 1
'Do you still find my company beneficial? Do you still think of
our missing friends as often as you did? What of your fight for
balance?'
Choose option 1
LD27: 'I...I need to speak with you a moment.'
Choose option 1
'I wished to apologize for my questions earlier. I was too
forward. I needed to know you remain the same man that I began
traveling with so long ago.'
Choose option 2
'That does not ease my mind. I must know what is truth or I
cannot trust myself. My decisions have affected many and I do not
wish to endanger anyone else.'
Choose option 1
'No? The Harper in your midst?'
Choose option 1
LD28: 'How...how did that battle make you feel? Did you enjoy it?
Choose option 2
'No, but what were your motivations? You can be violent like any
other person, but there is more at stake at with you. What were
you thinking?'
Choose option 1
For the next dialogue choose option 1
LD29: This is not a love dialogue but instead Dermin comes again
and this time warns Jaheira that the Harper court has decided her
fate. Death. He tells her that the main character can be avoided
from suffering the same fate as long as she return to the Harper
Hold. Jaheira will say that she will 'think on this'
show up. This happens exactly after you have successfully rested
without the guards bothering you. When you wake up you will find
that Jaheira is no longer in your party and Terminsel gives you a
note from Jaheira. In the note she says that she has returned to
the Harper Hold for her judgment. She tells you not to go after
her, You must therefore return to the Harper Hold in the Docks
District and you will find Jaheira on the top floor (the one where
the Spectral Harpers used to be) She will rejoin and this ends
the scene.
LD31: 'Ah, the dawning of our day, though it is very rarely that we
match our sleep to the cycle of day or night.'
Choose: 'We don't see the sunlight often. Sorry about that.'
'Besides, do I strike you as a person that would adjust well with
a strict timeline?'
Choose: 'No need to. No sunrise would ever compare with your
beauty in the moonlight.'
'Such talk! Have you found some poor apprentice bard to draft you
lines, or are you practicing on the maidens we meet?'
Choose: 'Oh, you sting my heart when you say such things. Hehe.
How cruel you are.'
LD32: This one is a scene where Dermin tries to kill Jaheira. Him
and his goons are not hard to defeat and you will know that Dermin
and Gavalrey were both traitors to the Harper cause. After the
battle Jaheira will say, 'I did not wish to do this. I did not.
We are in the right, (char name), but why does it still hurt?'
Choose option 1
'Heh, you and your jokes make me smile far too often, even when I
do not want to. People will think I am getting soft.'
Choose option 1
LD33: This dialogue occurs before you go to sleep. Jaheira says:
'It is about time we rested. I have seen enough waking hours
thank you very much.'
Choose option that says, 'I was not aware that morale was so low,
what can I do to make you happy?'
'I do not want to be happy. I want to be angry and feel bad about
it.'
Choose option, 'If I knew what was wrong I could help.'
'Stop being so damned reasonable. Get mad and say you won't stand
for it. Act like you should!'
Choose option 1
'None of this would happen if you accepted your evil heritage. I
would not have sided with you. I would not have fought for you.
I would not have...'
Choose option 2
'If I was wrong, the dead would have died for just reasons. So
many...that are dead and we are the cause. How can all those people
have been wrong?'
Choose option 2
'I should be happy, but I am not. Even with all we have done to
make things right, I am still troubled.'
Choose option 1
LD34: 'What? What is it you want?'
Choose option 1
'Well?'
Choose option 1
'Isn't that ridiculous? The bastard was putting people in danger
for nothing and I feel guilty for ending it!'
Choose option 2
LD35: 'You needn't keep a distance between us. I am in less of a mood
now.'
Choose option 1
'I do not blame you. Such trouble I have been. Simple feelings
made more difficult by the strangest things. I hope I have not
harmed your view of me.'
Choose option 1
'Know that I care for you, even if I do not show it well. If this
meant nothing it would have been easy to deal with. Small
consolation I know.'
Choose option 2
LD35: This dialogue comes after you sleep. Jaheira says:
'I have...had a realization. I had been walking with my eyes
downcast for so long I had forgotten the beauty of the land.'
After all we have seen, I had thought never to feel the warmth of
nature again..'
Choose option 1
'Forests, grasslands, they have been in harmony for untold years,
complimenting not competing. I have walked by many but had
forgotten. They stir my soul.'
Choose option 1
'I forgot that balance does not mean conformity, equilibrium does
not need to sacrifice variety. Dermin forgot that too.
Difference does not have to be chaos.'
Choose option 1
'(char name), I care for you. I have not always shown as such,
and my words may seem harsh on occasion, but my feelings are true
just the same.'
Choose option 1
'Perhaps this changes nothing, perhaps everything. I don't care
anymore. My heart cannot have nature within and be ashamed as
well.'
Choose option 1
LD35: 'We have to be nearing our goal. It has been a long journey and
we have been through so much. I hope this does not end up all
being for naught.'
Choose option 2
'There can be no mercy for this creature. What he has done is
unforgivable.'
Choose option 2
'Remarkably, we wouldn't be this close without him. We might have
parted company once we left Baldur's Gate and I would still...well
things would be different.
Choose option 1
LD36: This scene is when Jaheira asks you to have sex with her. Decline
in a nice manner otherwise the romance will be all for naught.
Don't worry I am still here to guide you! Jaheira will say this
when the sex scene is about to start:
'(char name) as we learn of our situation I want to say...that there
is much to come, and I find I need your company more and more.
You are a great comfort at this time.'
Choose option 1
'I know. We are great friends...and more. Your words ease my
thoughts, and many is the time we have saved one another in
battle. We have grown quite close.'
Choose option 2
'Stay with me tonight, (char name). If...if you wish.
Choose option 1. After all there is only one option!
'No, but I am less sure of many things these days. I worry less
about it though. I will set aside my hesitation if you will.'
Choose option 2
LD37: 'We are ready to move on? I think it's best that we get an
early start.'
Choose option 1
LD38: This is the last act for Jaheira's romance!! You don't have to
choose anything but the guy 'Terminsel' comes back and asks
Jaheira some questions. After this you have got Jaheira!! Yay!
I didn't have to use the CLUAconsole for this. I was in Athkala
for this, in the docks districts actually. The other time I met
'Telminsel' who's really Elminster by the way, was in the Druid
Grove in my old game. Don't worry I will keep on testing
different things out for you guys so I hope to keep you guys
posted!! By the way you must also have a reputation of at least
14 otherwise Jaheira will not get her Harper Pin.
the love event seems stop appear anymore.....
i used EEkeeper and saw the lovetalk function value is 7?? i remember the love event went to LD30!!
so i don't know how to fix the problem or bug....Q_Q
I am not sure that it will trigger after chapter 4. :(
could you see that and help me to check what part of my love advancement with her?
and how could i force it to enter the next part? T_T
Btw, as I noticed editing existing characters cause a lot of errors in the future. I suppose you have got one. :(
So, try to change LOVETALK variable; you have nothing to lose.
but after that, no any random romance with her in my adventure....even i tried to sleep in the wild or tavern in any town. only triggered random talk event between other party members. = =
Did you add or leave any other party members before you rejoined her? I think I remember a problem at one point that if you picked up a 6th party member, rejoined her and dismissed the other that it would hang the romance. So...I just do this fight with 5 party members now.
At that point the worst of the triggers should be over. When you go upstairs after the big fight in the hall, make sure that your CHARNAME isn't under invisibility, sanctuary or anything else that might affect dialog. Also, I'd put CHARNAME into the Party Leader slot...I've sometimes found that even if I go talk to people with my CHARNAME, if they aren't in the Party Leader position the target is reacting to my Party Leader, not the character doing the talking.
There must be some reason when you are talking to her at the Harper Hold that she isn't rejoining right and the romance is hanging.
https://truth.bahamut.com.tw/s01/202001/7eb0db6a12ad9104f3369178d425d4f2.JPG
sorry maybe BeamDog edited this event so Terminsel don't give you any real item only apply this message on your journal note....
of course i saved her on the second floor in Harper Hold and re-invited her in my party.
after i received Terminsel's message(un-exist note) i instantly came to save her so i didn't change my party members.
as i remembered when i save her and re-invite her, my protagonist didn't in any invisible, hiding or non'detection situation(sorry my protagonist is level 31 mage, the fight on floor 1 is too easy for him).
That's the one, but there should be an actual note scroll that he gives you. That's the problem. That item is what causes the talks to continue. Was your inventory full and maybe inadvertently dropped it on the ground? That's what happened to me and I didn't have a convenient save so I had to replay quite a bit to actually get the note and then it worked fine.
I only asked about the other stuff because of things I'd read when I had it hang one time and had to do it over again, that was a couple years ago.