tips for crowded bus stops?

[Jim0000001]

I just created a new bus route in the busiest (downtown) area of my city. I have about 17,000 people at this point in the game. I took a look to see how the new route was being used and there are over 700 people waiting at one of the stops. How do you deal with 700? I have never seen more than 200-300 waiting in previous games. I have some subways in the area and they have plenty of room.

[ブルーベリー]

get a second bus line in the other direction but following the same path

increase the amount of vehicles

create more stops around the crowded area

[Soon2Die]

Where are the people getting off? They may not be going where the subway goes

[dadyrghluv69]

If you go to the transport menu in the top left corner, select the bus route, their is a magnifying glass their, click it and you can set the budget for that particular line, more money equals more buses

[Red]

pathfinding and AI is buggy for busses even if you follow the advices above. But the long wait times is more of a cosmetic problem. The cims don't get angry or anything.

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by Redhunt:

pathfinding and AI is buggy for busses even if you follow the advices above. But the long wait times is more of a cosmetic problem. The cims don't get angry or anything.

But don't Cims despawn just like vehicles if they can't arrive on time ?

As above, I think find where most go and get some metro stops in place.

[★ Elastic Fantastic ★]

Transport mods add wait times to cims so they leave stops after an amount of time.

[Epicurus]

In the workshop you can find high-capacity buses called 'articulated bus'. They often have tripple the capacity and exist in real life as well. To actively assign them to bus lines, use the 'Improved Public Transport 2' mod.

However, if that doesn't mitigate the problem, it's a sign you should start thinking about using metro or train. Heck, you could even stack a rail over the road (requires 'Fine Road Anarchy' mod among others) and use an elevated station like 'NYC_Elevated Stacked Train Station'. I do this and use the 'VIRM 4 car train' with a capacity of 500 to solve this kind of problem.

[Standferd007]

I noticed similar with a new city. Could it be a mod?...could it be, not saying it is. Whereas previously was able to fix it better.

Out of curiosity (i dont have 'mass transit') are your busses 'unbunching'?...not saying that is causing the\a issue.

Edit: Could be traffic jam around bus sration\depot?

[Standferd007]

I uploaded some imges of a similar problem, seeing if i can fix it:

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With subway nearby

Depot and station nearby - traffic jam

The last image i was able to fix by changing the street to a double lane one way and bulldozing stores. The two highway ramps need work but saving that for later.

If that works then will know if it was causing the problem.

[MarkJohnson]

Cims will only go where they are needed. Watch that your lines just go in circles around the same residential area. Make sure bus lines cross jobs and shopping in their pathing.

I just have buses going perpendicular to subways. this way they can go both north and sound south, but also east and west.

Don't run two lines on the same route. no two bus lines, one going clockwise and the other counterclockwise. That just makes things worse. Same with two lines of one subway route and one bus route. Doubling up just generates more traffic than anything else.

Just make sure the routes go somewhere the cims need to go.

[OneJasonBradly]

Originally posted by Jim0322:

I just created a new bus route in the busiest (downtown) area of my city. I have about 17,000 people at this point in the game. I took a look to see how the new route was being used and there are over 700 people waiting at one of the stops. How do you deal with 700? I have never seen more than 200-300 waiting in previous games. I have some subways in the area and they have plenty of room.

I have had bus stops holding 1500 before I found the stop, and it was cured over time with three busses added to the line. I would watch how full the busses are before they reach “that” stop. It could be the busses are full or near full when they reach that stop. If that’s not the case and it is a place where a constant flow of citizens collect quickly. Then I might follow the bus from “that stop” and find where the majority of passenger depart and create a shuttle bus line between those two stops or very near them. I have a few of those types of lines in my city and they work well. I have also tried this shuttle line on other areas and have it not work so well. In most cases of shuttle line failure the traffic flow on its route is the issue for me.

[OneJasonBradly]

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

Don't run two lines on the same route. no two bus lines, one going clockwise and the other counterclockwise. That just makes things worse.Doubling up just generates more traffic than anything else.

Interesting, I have done that very thing with amazing results. in fact it increased the use of both lines due to the convenience of not needing to wait on the bus to reach the other end of the line. It increased the flow of pedestrians and got them to their end or off stop quicker. This technic should be used sparingly for it does add bus traffic and noise throughout the route.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by OneJasonBradly:

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

Don't run two lines on the same route. no two bus lines, one going clockwise and the other counterclockwise. That just makes things worse.Doubling up just generates more traffic than anything else.

Interesting, I have done that very thing with amazing results. in fact it increased the use of both lines due to the convenience of not needing to wait on the bus to reach the other end of the line. It increased the flow of pedestrians and got them to their end or off stop quicker. This technic should be used sparingly for it does add bus traffic and noise throughout the route.

If I had traffic like that, I'd be questioning the layout and why I have such heavy traffic. And what alternatives I should be using.

I mean irl you'd never see two bus routes using the exact same route. They are usually spread out by quite a bit to offset traffic loads to keep traffic low. i.e. if they're heavy in one spot, then they are likely light in others and can be offset to other routes to even out loads without creating a duplicate route.

[Aminushki]

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

Originally posted by OneJasonBradly:

Interesting, I have done that very thing with amazing results. in fact it increased the use of both lines due to the convenience of not needing to wait on the bus to reach the other end of the line. It increased the flow of pedestrians and got them to their end or off stop quicker. This technic should be used sparingly for it does add bus traffic and noise throughout the route.

If I had traffic like that, I'd be questioning the layout and why I have such heavy traffic. And what alternatives I should be using.

I mean irl you'd never see two bus routes using the exact same route. They are usually spread out by quite a bit to offset traffic loads to keep traffic low. i.e. if they're heavy in one spot, then they are likely light in others and can be offset to other routes to even out loads without creating a duplicate route.

duplicate routes are common in a city like toronto, busses indicated with different letters such as 102A/B/C/D have overlapping routes but different destinations from one hub.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by Aminushki:

Originally posted by -DI- rmjohnson144:

If I had traffic like that, I'd be questioning the layout and why I have such heavy traffic. And what alternatives I should be using.

I mean irl you'd never see two bus routes using the exact same route. They are usually spread out by quite a bit to offset traffic loads to keep traffic low. i.e. if they're heavy in one spot, then they are likely light in others and can be offset to other routes to even out loads without creating a duplicate route.

duplicate routes are common in a city like toronto, busses indicated with different letters such as 102A/B/C/D have overlapping routes but different destinations from one hub.

Yes, partial overlap, and 99% of the time with no overlap at all. But, not completely the same route in reverse, or one route in metro then another with buses, or whatever. You typically want routes spaced out far apart to cover more people with fewer buses.

I mean, from a hub, buses need to overlap a little just to get out of the gate.