Improving the new launcher

[spielerinchen]

Originally posted by Aiwyth:

Thanks for the response snowflitzer :) Like I mentioned in my initial post - we, as Paradox, will try to keep our communication to a higher standard in the future.

As we all know, launcher introduction got very mixed reaction from the community overall... and many very negative comments on Steam. Our launcher development team has been working hard on making it as useful and attractive to the players, but it cannot be done without your help.

Like Verullus Forgefire said, some Cities fans probably don't mind the launcher at all. However, with people who want to voice their opinion, a constructive feedback is important to push the changes in the right direction. I'm sure you know a bit about it as a software developer :)

Keeping that in mind, what exactly would you like to see improved or added? What would make your experience with the launcher better? And regarding that one part of your post - have you noticed any big spikes in RAM consumption on your PC after launcher introduction?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/255710/discussions/0/1750147465524454075/#c1750147465524696401

even if i don't have any hope Paradox will improve that launcher to a state i can accept, i want to answer
since the original thread was closed (well ... how to answer a question if there is no space given), so i am opening this one


"what exactly would you like to see improved or added?"
"What would make your experience with the launcher better?"

1. only one launcher for the game, as it was usual since day one of C:S
merge the new launcher with all the functionality of the old one, which is still there
the excuse of "it's only one click more" is not enough

2. the new look of the launcher should be consistent with the game as we know it since years
no "new looks" please !
if you want to have a new look, make a new game !

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Thanks for sharing more detailed feedback!

[Avanya]

I would absolutely love a button to load directly into the asset editor, kinda like the "Resume" button for the editor. Bypassing the main menu would save me time. :)

[Overlord]

Remove the bloatware launcher - the best update.

[Verullus Forgefire]

Originally posted by Overlord:

Remove the bloatware launcher - the best update.

It's not really bloatware. 😉

[Overlord]

Originally posted by Verullus Forgefire:

Originally posted by Overlord:

Remove the bloatware launcher - the best update.

It's not really bloatware. 😉

Well it does not improve anything - most likely it is slowing game load + it collects personal data. Why it is not a bloatware in your opinion?

[spielerinchen]

@Verullus Forgefire
if you have suggestions to improve the launcher you're welcome to share it,
but please not just contributing by negating others

[ianamash]

I would really like to have the option to disable it, a little like the bypass that was created by the community. When I log in game, the main menu is already connected to my paradox account. so pretty much everything could already be added in the main menu.
I understand this post is about contribution so here are my ideas if it's to be useful.

1- Mod management.
Some mods do require the game to be restarted to take effect. it would be nice to have the list of mods in the launcher to enable or disable them before the game even starts. Would save precious time when needing to troubleshoot something from starting or quitting the game over and over enabling and disabling mods. right now the way it is, start game, check mods, disable mods, quit game, launch game, check game, quit game, start game re-enable mods, quit game, start game.. just having the mods in the launcher would reduce this process in half. with a 4 mins loading time each time this would mean close to 20 mins saved on this process. probably 1/4th of my 800 hours play time is spent watching the loading not that i have many issues but I like helping other with theirs.

2- Game Profiles
I know this would be a lot of work, but having a team dedicated to launcher functions it shouldn't be too hard to implement.
Have multiple profiles with sets of mods and assets along with their savegame. For fast loading into a game when you have 5 or 6 different saves that use different mods and assets. They could be made shareable so when helping others they can just share the profile they have and it would avoid the helping community to have to ask for a list of mods and assets from the user when they have hundreds they would automatically be subscribed and downloaded when the profile is loaded the first time. This would make individual helping way easier and make the overall gameplay better by facilitating community help.

3- Sent information
Have a list of informations Paradox gathers from you, stating which ones are necessary for them and allowing the players to choose which of the secondary information they agree to share with Paradox. Personally I don't care about that but a lot of players care about their privacy and this would help a lot in easing the raging that's been going on within the community.

4- Opt-out
An option a little like the bypass launcher that's been designed by the players, Allowing those that trully want nothing to do with the launcher the option to disable it and go straight into game from steam.

5- Guides.
Have links to guides to help players understand the AI like some traffic management guidelines from the game maker, how the AI was developed and it's base functioning. Useful tips and tricks, Haven't really searched the forums yet but I'm pretty sure there are a lot of golden usermade guides, having them linked within the launcher would give it a great purpose.

That's pretty much all I have in mind at this moment. If I have more I'll be sure to say.

[spielerinchen]

anybody else ?

[Belo]

It's useless as everything is already in the game. If you need to collect info use the steam API or whatever they provide you with. It still must be better than the half baked launcher PDS made.

[@R+5]

Originally posted by Verullus Forgefire:

Originally posted by Overlord:

Remove the bloatware launcher - the best update.

It's not really bloatware. 😉

bloatware is anything extra that we dont need or want to use, but are forced to have it installed. the launcher is forced, and is not optional to remove it or ignore the updated eula.

Both things are not nice.

[Verullus Forgefire]

At the moment this launcher is no bloatware.. although what people would like to have added is going to make this launcher bloated up.. so here ya' go.

[Raviel]

Originally posted by spielerinchen:

@Verullus Forgefire
if you have suggestions to improve the launcher you're welcome to share it,
but please not just contributing by negating others

What is the reason to even have a launcher or launcher team in this game?
Just launch the game immidiately, would save time for everyone and is cheaper to make..

Only valid reason to have a launcher is to configure vide drivers in older games, semi valid to select/configure DLCs. This one has none of it.

[@R+5]

Originally posted by Verullus Forgefire:

At the moment this launcher is no bloatware.. although what people would like to have added is going to make this launcher bloated up.. so here ya' go.

what people actually want is A no launcher a skip the new EULA, or be able to skip the updated EULA and B integrate better the launcher with the original menu.

That still doesnt change the fact that by definition is bloatware: is something additional forced to users that wasnt requested or needed. And it looks a lot like an excuse for imposing new telemetry practices. Thats bloatware 101.

[Avanya]

Let's get back on topic. If you want to discuss how you feel about the launcher, do so in the existing threads for that purpose.

If you have suggestions for improvements to the launcher that would make it feel worth having, then please add them here.

[spielerinchen]

so aside the suggestion to just remove the new launcher there are no other suggestions so far