KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 1.5+2.5 ReMIX-

KINGDOM HEARTS -HD 1.5+2.5 ReMIX-

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CassieLassie Jul 31, 2024 @ 7:09am
Why is the first game nearly 80GB?
Why on god's green earth is a game from the PS2 nearly 80 gigabytes whereas the 3rd, newest and most recent entry, the more complex and graphically intense entry, is way less? Where is all of that data going to for a PS2 game? Please enlighten me, I am thoroughly perplexed:p3p_sweat:
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mdesaleah Jul 31, 2024 @ 7:15am 
AI upscaled textures added another 30.

And this isn’t just 1, this is 1 + Chain of Memories + Days Movie + 2 + BBS + Recoded movie.
Last edited by mdesaleah; Jul 31, 2024 @ 7:16am
Seb | セビ Jul 31, 2024 @ 7:38am 
because its not just one game, its six, two of which are hd movie long videos. the games also received higher resolution textures
[pGA]Marie★ Jul 31, 2024 @ 8:02am 
Well you see the KH 1.5 on PS3 is about 20GB and the 2.5 is 19GB. the Port on PS4 base game + the patches that was ruining the game in 60fps and leftover bugs from the PS3 is a total of 50GB. now if the Theater DLC from KH1FM (which surprisingly is not running on the same launcher the KH1 has and the added scenes on Coded and 358/Days) is a total of nearly 70GB. This port includes AI Upscale so yeah I do the math and badabing badaboom 80 GB!
Toasty Jul 31, 2024 @ 9:07pm 
1.5 is a collection of 2 HD games and a cutscene movie
2.5 is a collection of 2 HD games and a cutscene movie

Should be pretty obvious why the combination of them takes up 80 gb.
Originally posted by CassieLassie:
Why on god's green earth is a game from the PS2 nearly 80 gigabytes whereas the 3rd, newest and most recent entry, the more complex and graphically intense entry, is way less? Where is all of that data going to for a PS2 game? Please enlighten me, I am thoroughly perplexed:p3p_sweat:


Well the unplayable games, and the games cut-scenes take up 20 GB on top of Japanese voices you couldn't use until this release with switching to international mode

tons of bloat tbh
J.P. Aug 2, 2024 @ 5:59am 
The fact that there are these movie versions of games in the mix is the reason for the total size of the install. These videos make up almost 34 GB in total.
Meanwhile, the Steam Deck variants are less than 10 GB, with pretty much the same perceivable quality.
Blind Aug 2, 2024 @ 7:02am 
also, if you REALLLLY wanna know... it's because this game was localized into a zillion languages; and that REALLY ups file sizes
Seb | セビ Aug 2, 2024 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Blind:
also, if you REALLLLY wanna know... it's because this game was localized into a zillion languages; and that REALLY ups file sizes
since its only text, no, not really
CassieLassie Aug 9, 2024 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by Blind:
also, if you REALLLLY wanna know... it's because this game was localized into a zillion languages; and that REALLY ups file sizes

Then why not just do what other games have done and offer seperate languages as a free DLC you can download? I am all for localizing things and making it more accessible, for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake I watch my anime dubbed, but if the reason the game is so freakin huge is a couple movies and languages then that's a little dumb.
CassieLassie Aug 9, 2024 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by Toasty:
1.5 is a collection of 2 HD games and a cutscene movie
2.5 is a collection of 2 HD games and a cutscene movie

Should be pretty obvious why the combination of them takes up 80 gb.

Wait wait, it has both KH1 and KH2? Well that makes sense, but then what the hell is KH2.8 then? God this franchise really is as confusing as everyone says it is, I just wanted to get into the final fantasy mickey game:p3p_sweat::p3p_sweat::LoveChoiceSweat:
mdesaleah Aug 9, 2024 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by CassieLassie:
Originally posted by Toasty:
1.5 is a collection of 2 HD games and a cutscene movie
2.5 is a collection of 2 HD games and a cutscene movie

Should be pretty obvious why the combination of them takes up 80 gb.

Wait wait, it has both KH1 and KH2? Well that makes sense, but then what the hell is KH2.8 then? God this franchise really is as confusing as everyone says it is, I just wanted to get into the final fantasy mickey game:p3p_sweat::p3p_sweat::LoveChoiceSweat:
Get everything on Steam, and you have everything in the series (except Melody for some reason).

Then just look up Release Order and play the series in that order.

If you dont know the order its 1, Chain, 2, 358, BBS, Recoded, DDD, 0.2, Backcover, Union X (dont really need to know everything yet but maybe the beginning), 3, Melody of Memories, finish Union X
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KillerKommando Aug 9, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by CassieLassie:
Wait wait, it has both KH1 and KH2? Well that makes sense, but then what the hell is KH2.8 then? God this franchise really is as confusing as everyone says it is, I just wanted to get into the final fantasy mickey game:p3p_sweat::p3p_sweat::LoveChoiceSweat:

Yeah.. About that.. Honestly, you're better off not trying to 'understand' the story and play it for the experience while picking up lore as you go.

There are games like Elden Ring, where there is very little narrative storytelling but there's massive amounts of environmental/item storytelling that can fill in the gaps to give you a nearly complete picture.

There are games like Final Fantasy where it's almost entirely narrative with environmental as a backdrop.

Kingdom Hearts took an Elden Ring style approach and the narrative isn't really explained. The parts that are explained are done so in a convoluted way. The items you get, like Ansem's Report, fill in some holes but not nearly enough to explain what's actually going on. It doesn't get any better by the second game when they add an entirely different group than Sora and the gang vs. the Heartless. The problem with taking that kind of approach is you need to be spot on with your lore. Especially when it was just the first game the lore of the game left virtually everyone stumped.

The movies and such are the game director's way of trying to bridge the gaps in story.

The story still doesn't make sense after them though, lmao.
mdesaleah Aug 9, 2024 @ 7:00am 
^Thats cause your statement is wrong.

Kingdom Hearts is not at all like a Souls game in terms of relying solely on items to give most of the story.

Its the opposite. Most of it is given to you in cutscenes like its a FF game. While there is background detail in reports, you don't need them to understand the basics of the story, its there if you want to go into more detail. They are extras for those that REALLY want to know the details. The main story is all in cutscenes, most of them with voice acting.

If this was a Souls game, you'd start in Traverse town, already holding a keyblade, and then an npc would give you some vague directions and then you use what they say and item descriptions to figure out whats going on. No long cutscenes.

It expects you to go in Release Order though and will not completely accommodate anyone who skips around randomly. Thats where the "convoluted" part comes in, since on release most players would skip games due to not having the correct systems for them and then theyd be missing a game's worth of added story and context at minimum. Skip a game, and you suddenly don't know who the main villain is, or what key characters are.
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KillerKommando Aug 9, 2024 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by mdesaleah:
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I'm glad you've got your own perspective! Doesn't make mine wrong.

KH doesn't rely solely on items. Didn't say it did.

Analogies, similarities, and metaphors aren't meant to be 1-1 translations, my guy. Didn't say KH was a souls game.

Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. You're on Steam forums, not the Library of Congress.
Toasty Aug 9, 2024 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by CassieLassie:
Wait wait, it has both KH1 and KH2? Well that makes sense, but then what the hell is KH2.8 then? God this franchise really is as confusing as everyone says it is, I just wanted to get into the final fantasy mickey game:p3p_sweat::p3p_sweat::LoveChoiceSweat:
1.5 + 2.5 contains the following:
  • Kingdom Hearts Final Mix HD
  • Kingdom Hearts Re:CoM HD
  • Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix HD
  • Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix HD
  • Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days Cutscene Movie (not a playable game)
  • Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded Cutscene Movie (not a playable game)

2.8 contains the following:
  • Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance HD
  • Kingdom Hearts 0.2 -A Fragmentary Passage- (this is basically a KH3 tech demo)
  • Kingdom Hearts Union X Back Cover (not a playable game)

And that just leaves Kingdom Hearts 3 + Re:Mind, which is just KH3 and its DLC packaged with the game.

"What is Final Mix?"
Final Mix refers to the updated versions of the games released usually about a year after the original launch. They contain extra content, features, and fixes.

"Why are the titles so confusing?"
There was a *long* gap between Kingdom Hearts 2 and Kingdom Hearts 3. During that time, we got 4 different handheld games across 3 systems (DS, 3DS, PSP), a mobile Kingdom Hearts gacha game, and 3 HD collections of the games on PS3, then on PS4. The title for 1.5 was attempting to convey that it contained KH1 and the games chronologically leading up to KH2. Naturally, 2.5 attempts to convey that it contains KH2 and the games leading up to 3. This pattern was broken when they had to remaster Dream Drop Distance, which chronologically takes place just before KH3. It was packaged with a cool KH3 tech demo and called 2.8 to convey that it was the final collection before finally getting KH3.

"What are cutscene movies?"
358/2 Days and Re:Coded were originally fully playable Nintendo DS games. Due to time constraints, the difficulty involved in remaking them for the collection, and their low relevance to the story at large, they were included as HD compilations of only their cutscenes. Kingdom Hearts Union X Back Cover is an exception, as it's actually an original movie to supplement Kingdom Hearts Union X (the aforementioned mobile game).
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