Resident Evil 4 (2005)

Resident Evil 4 (2005)

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I finally decided I would give steam a go and play one of my all time favorites Resident Evil 4. At first, the gameplay was laggy so I set the frame rate to 30 fps and anti aliasing off. Seemed to fix that problem quite well. But the cutscenes have the audio desynced and the video goes longer after the audio track. Any solutions and perhaps a patch for this? I have looked every where PLEASE HELP
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Dekonega Mar 21, 2015 @ 1:09am 
Apparently you haven't looked everywhere...

http://steamcommunity.com/app/254700/discussions/0/558749191020857037/

Desync is partially caused by the fact that your system cannot up keep stable frame rate in all situations. Lower the visual fidelity to achieve stable 30FPS. And if you're unable to fix the issues then contact Capcom's support for more instructions.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6182-UOJZ-9750

http://shop.capcom.com/store/capcomus/html/pbPage.capcom-support
I Love Emma Stone Mar 21, 2015 @ 5:45am 
What's screwed up about this whole thing is even some of the people who meet or even exceed the recommended system requirements for this game have these problems as well.

As far as I'm concerned, the real actual cause of this is they use a lousy game engine. Just my opinion of course. I doubt very much that these problems would exsist if a different and better engine was used such as the Unreal engine.

Dekonega Mar 21, 2015 @ 7:14am 
Originally posted by Sean Rubin:
As far as I'm concerned, the real actual cause of this is they use a lousy game engine. Just my opinion of course. I doubt very much that these problems would exsist if a different and better engine was used such as the Unreal engine.

That wouldn't automatically resolve the issues. You only have to take a look at Rise of the Triad (2013 version) and see how Unreal Engine games can be even more unoptimised. Besides change to UE wouldn't make any sense even if we could expect to gain some benefits by doing it.

Porting a game from an engine to another takes years of hard work. It costs quite a bit of money and requires many man-years to do. And as a result even if it worked perfectly... The game would "feel" wrong and work quite a bit differently internally. People would notice the difference and complain about that. And on top of that in reality it would probably still be quite unoptimised. It would only change these large issues to another kind of large issues.

The problem with Resident Evil 4 is that the codebase is really old. To the point it's become a complete mess. They've poorly maintained the code, with tools that aren't fit for the purpose. The best service they could do at this point is to release the game engine sources to the public under free and open source software license such as GNU GPL.

Capcom could sell the RE4 assets here at Steam. People could correct the design issues with the game engine architecture, port it to the GNU/Linux and OS X, and fix the bugs that plague it. And Capcom could make money out of it that what they currently make.
I Love Emma Stone Mar 21, 2015 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by Dekonega:
Besides change to UE wouldn't make any sense even if we could expect to gain some benefits by doing it.

Porting a game from an engine to another takes years of hard work. It costs quite a bit of money and requires many man-years to do.

I don't except them to re-make the game on a different engine.

Basically all I was saying was that I think the problems the game has is due to the engine they used. So we're stuck with it unless they do like you said and:

The best service they could do at this point is to release the game engine sources to the public under free and open source software license such as GNU GPL.

Capcom could sell the RE4 assets here at Steam. People could correct the design issues with the game engine architecture, port it to the GNU/Linux and OS X, and fix the bugs that plague it. And Capcom could make money out of it that what they currently make.
Thotimus Prime Mar 21, 2015 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by Dekonega:
Apparently you haven't looked everywhere...

http://steamcommunity.com/app/254700/discussions/0/558749191020857037/

Desync is partially caused by the fact that your system cannot up keep stable frame rate in all situations. Lower the visual fidelity to achieve stable 30FPS. And if you're unable to fix the issues then contact Capcom's support for more instructions.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6182-UOJZ-9750

http://shop.capcom.com/store/capcomus/html/pbPage.capcom-support
I have already looked there before and yes I have tried it. The only problem I still encounter is cutscene lag and it's really annoying.
Thotimus Prime Mar 21, 2015 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by Sean Rubin:
What's screwed up about this whole thing is even some of the people who meet or even exceed the recommended system requirements for this game have these problems as well.

As far as I'm concerned, the real actual cause of this is they use a lousy game engine. Just my opinion of course. I doubt very much that these problems would exsist if a different and better engine was used such as the Unreal engine.
I would hope that is the cause. I am starting to believe since it is so old and they converted it to an hd remake, Capcom got lazy and forgot to properly format the cutscenes.
Dekonega Mar 21, 2015 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by nanofchan:
I have already looked there before and yes I have tried it. The only problem I still encounter is cutscene lag and it's really annoying.

Ah, ok. It's just that most people don't read that thread first. Instead they made a new thread asking for help and they don't post their specs, they don't explain the problem properly, and they have not tried to seek the help from Capcom at the same time. And that kind of pisses me off.

:D:

Originally posted by nanofchan:
I would hope that is the cause. I am starting to believe since it is so old and they converted it to an hd remake, Capcom got lazy and forgot to properly format the cutscenes.

Capcom didn't do the RE4 Steam port. They hired a Polish company QLOC that has specialised in porting games to do it for them. Most of us don't have issues with the game. There's usually some config issues with the people who have the machine specs that exceed the recommended specs of the game. After solving those the game has run like intended. You should check your VSync options for example from the display driver's settings panel.

But it's true that some people just don't have the kind of CPU that this game requires and even if they can run latest Battlefield and Crysis (which rely heavily on GPU) it is not an indication that they can run RE4 Steam ver. properly. RE4 relies more on CPU than on GPU. You can even run the game on Intel's HD4000 and it'll work fairly well. What are your specs, by the way?

The guys who did this probably poured tons of work so that it would work at all. RE4 was written for an kind of exotic PPC processor platform (Gamecube). The cutscene issue which I've testified are caused by the fact that your system cannot up keep exact 30 FPS but instead falls into 29 or 28 or lower. And when that happens several times in a row it will desync video and audio.

The reason I'd like you to contact the Capcom's support is that you could fill in a bug report that this game has issues with your system and that they need to be addressed. The people at Capcom's support get paid to solve problems of Capcom's customers. And if we are lucky then Capcom will pay some money for those Polish guys to optimise the game further and fix issues plaguing it.
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Thotimus Prime Mar 21, 2015 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by Dekonega:
Originally posted by nanofchan:
I have already looked there before and yes I have tried it. The only problem I still encounter is cutscene lag and it's really annoying.

Ah, ok. It's just that most people don't read that thread first. Instead they made a new thread asking for help and they don't post their specs, they don't explain the problem properly, and they have not tried to seek the help from Capcom at the same time. And that kind of pisses me off.

:D:

Originally posted by nanofchan:
I would hope that is the cause. I am starting to believe since it is so old and they converted it to an hd remake, Capcom got lazy and forgot to properly format the cutscenes.

Capcom didn't do the RE4 Steam port. They hired a Polish company QLOC that has specialised in porting games to do it for them. Most of us don't have issues with the game. There's usually some config issues with the people who have the machine specs that exceed the recommended specs of the game. After solving those the game has run like intended. You should check your VSync options for example from the display driver's settings panel.

But it's true that some people just don't have the kind of CPU that this game requires and even if they can run latest Battlefield and Crysis (which rely heavily on GPU) it is not an indication that they can run RE4 Steam ver. properly. RE4 relies more on CPU than on GPU. You can even run the game on Intel's HD4000 and it'll work fairly well. What are your specs, by the way?

The guys who did this probably poured tons of work so that it would work at all. RE4 was written for an kind of exotic PPC processor platform (Gamecube). The cutscene issue which I've testified are caused by the fact that your system cannot up keep exact 30 FPS but instead falls into 29 or 28 or lower. And when that happens several times in a row it will desync video and audio.

The reason I'd like you to contact the Capcom's support is that you could fill in a bug report that this game has issues with your system and that they need to be addressed. The people at Capcom's support get paid to solve problems of Capcom's customers. And if we are lucky then Capcom will pay some money for those Polish guys to optimise the game further and fix issues plaguing it.
Well I've recently put hours of work reinstalling mdy drivers from hp and amd to make sure they work properly. Maybe windows 8.1 is to blame? I hvae been tracking other forums where switchable graphics is also an issue and cannot be selected on their system. I am going to try to make the cpu processing speeds work the most they can whenever the game runs. Do you think that will help?
Dekonega Mar 22, 2015 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by nanofchan:
Well I've recently put hours of work reinstalling mdy drivers from hp and amd to make sure they work properly. Maybe windows 8.1 is to blame? I hvae been tracking other forums where switchable graphics is also an issue and cannot be selected on their system. I am going to try to make the cpu processing speeds work the most they can whenever the game runs. Do you think that will help?

I cannot answer your question. The sentence where you define the action: "make the cpu processing speeds work the most they can whenever the game runs" is just total nonsense. You're thinking something completely different than what you wrote. Redefine the question.

Windows 8.1 is not at fault, in my honest opinion. I am running the RE4 in Windows 8.1 Pro on my mid-class i5 and a low-class nVidia card, and the game runs like it is supposed to run.

AMD owners usually tend to have problems with the games and other software. It's likely that the root of your problems lie in some cheap and inadequate AMD part that is unable to just run the game properly. Especially if your system is a HP laptop (Never buy HP, MSI, or Acer laptops because they use the cheapest quality components and fill your machine with garbage by default).

However I cannot know that because you didn't post your hardware specs like I asked you to do. So please, install Speccy and copy n' paste its summary page to this thread. And please contact the Capcom's support.

Get Speccy from here:
http://www.piriform.com/speccy/download/standard

Oh, and also install Fraps:
http://www.fraps.com/

Tell me what kind of frame rates you're getting. Use the benchmark feature to measure average of... let's say an 15 minutes... of the gameplay and cutscenes. Fraps will make a text file with those numbers. Post it to this thread.
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Thotimus Prime Mar 23, 2015 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Dekonega:
However I cannot know that because you didn't post your hardware specs like I asked you to do. So please, install Speccy and copy n' paste its summary page to this thread. And please contact the Capcom's support.

Get Speccy from here:
http://www.piriform.com/speccy/download/standard

Oh, and also install Fraps:
http://www.fraps.com/

Tell me what kind of frame rates you're getting. Use the benchmark feature to measure average of... let's say an 15 minutes... of the gameplay and cutscenes. Fraps will make a text file with those numbers. Post it to this thread.
Operating System
Windows 8.1 64-bit
CPU
AMD K16 45 °C
Mullins Technology
RAM
3.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 22CD (Socket FT3b) 44 °C
Graphics
Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@60Hz)
512MB ATI AMD Radeon R5 Graphics (HP) 42 °C
Storage
465GB ST500LT012-1DG14 SATA Disk Device (SATA) 37 °C
Optical Drives
hp DVDRW UJ8FBA SATA CdRom Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
The average fps seems to be 21 which is slightly strange. I notice during the cutscenes the fps decreases.
Dekonega Mar 23, 2015 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by nanofchan:
CPU: AMD K16
RAM: 3.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics: 512MB ATI AMD Radeon R5 Graphics (HP) 42 °C

The average fps seems to be 21 which is slightly strange. I notice during the cutscenes the fps decreases.

It's not strange. That's exactly what you should be getting with the combination of that graphics unit and processor accoring to the benchmarks I could find with Google. Your PC doesn't meet the minimum requirements for this game.

That's the reason the game stutters, and the audio and video de-sync happens. Here's abbreviated list minimum system requirements for the Resident Evil 4 Steam version...

  • CPU: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz or better, AMD Athlon™ X2 2.8 Ghz or better
  • RAM: 2 GB RAM
  • Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GTS or better, ATI Radeon™ HD 4850 or better

What you have is roughtly the 1/3 of the speed of the baseline they're asking for RE4 to run properly. Or something like ~1.5/3 depending on the exact model of K16 and R5 you have which I don't know because the Speccy apparently was unable to even detect the model accurately.

It's impossible to run RE4 on your system. This is not a fault of the game or the guys who ported it. Get yourself a new computer if you want to play RE4. It's that simple.

Your system is an office PC. It works good for Word documents, listening music, and browsing WWW. Not for 3D gaming and multimedia as it has the lowest of low entry level parts from the AMD. Your RAM is also the slowest possible DDR3 that even exists. The RAM timings are absolutely terrible.
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Thotimus Prime Mar 23, 2015 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by ÐÜÐĘŞåܩʙ:
Why is your ddr3 single channel?And those ram timings yikes!
IExplains how slow the games run
Dekonega Mar 23, 2015 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by nanofchan:
Originally posted by ÐÜÐĘŞåܩʙ:
Why is your ddr3 single channel?And those ram timings yikes!
IExplains how slow the games run
It isn't just the kind of RAM you have. Your whole system is not enough to run the RE4. Primary problem being the graphics chip.

The fact is that your PC doesn't meet the minimum requirements the game needs in order to run. Even if you swapped RAM to something better the game would not run.

Only thing that will fix your issue is that you buy a new PC. Something that has a decent CPU, a decent amount of fast RAM, and a decent GPU. Affordable gaming capable PCs cost around ~400 USD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUpRXRGVHU
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Thotimus Prime Mar 23, 2015 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by Dekonega:
Originally posted by nanofchan:
IExplains how slow the games run
It isn't just the kind of RAM you have. Your whole system is not enough to run the RE4. Primary problem being the graphics chip.

The fact is that your PC doesn't meet the minimum requirements the game needs in order to run. Even if you swapped RAM to something better the game would not run.

Only thing that will fix your issue is that you buy a new PC. Something that has a decent CPU, a decent amount of fast RAM, and a decent GPU. Affordable gaming capable PCs cost around ~400 USD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUpRXRGVHU
Thanks for the help it was alow budget pc so I will make sure to check next time

Dekonega Mar 23, 2015 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by nanofchan:
Thanks for the help it was alow budget pc so I will make sure to check next time

Just keep in mind that ~400 USD system probably will not run the game 60 FPS. That's because the RE4 Steam version is not properly optimised. However ~400 USD system will run the game as intended 30 FPS pretty much guaranteed.

It'd go for 600~800 USD range for mid-range system. That has the sweet spot for the price / performance. But the 400~500 systems do their job reliably. Of course presuming you can find good components that low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsiHegrG3gs

I'd suggest you follow Tek Syndicate at Youtube. They give decent suggestions for gaming capable PC builds.

Just keep in mind that you cannot buy a gaming PC from OEMs like HP for ~400 USD. Their systems are overpriced and under-performing.
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