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Shinuchi Mar 16, 2014 @ 4:51pm
Should I upgrade Broken Butterfly on my first playthrough?
Kinda stumped should I upgrade BB all the way or buy Killer 7 for a first time playthrough? or should I just sell it and wait for the Handcannon to save cash. I am right before the Krauser fight btw.

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Kameraden Mar 16, 2014 @ 4:57pm 
I went with the Killer 7 as I didn't plan on upgrading either weapon all the way on my first play through. Broken Butterfly is clearly better though.

But being the Killer 7 has much better base stats if you didn't upgrade the broken butterlfy much at all by the time the Killer 7 is available the Killer 7 is obviously better short term.

Broken Butterfly is only Obviously better, after you give it it's exclusive upgrade.

Killer 7 though is easier to handle/use, shoots faster, reloads faster, in general the Broken Butterfly is the Bolt Rifle of the Magniums while the Killer 7 is like the Semi Auto. Broken you're going for raw firepower, while Killer 7 it's easy of use and speed.
Last edited by Kameraden; Mar 16, 2014 @ 4:59pm
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WC4L420 Mar 16, 2014 @ 4:59pm 
don't bother the rifle gets more damage with the exclusive. dump upgrades into pistol and rifle the first and shotgun and magnum the second time around. Also use the riot gun over striker as it has more damage. capactiy doesn't matter once you've ran out of the initial 100 rounds you get from the upgrade.
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Kameraden Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by D3TH5150:
don't bother the rifle gets more damage with the exclusive. dump upgrades into pistol and rifle the first and shotgun and magnum the second time around. Also use the riot gun over striker as it has more damage. capactiy doesn't matter once you've ran out of the initial 100 rounds you get from the upgrade.
Technically the Shotgun is better than the Riot. The only reason the Riot seems like it does more damage is it's more accurate at a distance than the Striker, at close range the Striker is GOD. At medium/long rnage the Shotgun is god with fully upgraded.. Riot is just a stop gap weapon... smart people avoid buying the riot gun and just keep the shotgun until the Striker.

Also the Striker shoots much faster, pump action can get you killed, definitely vs DOGs... between Pumps it's enough time for them to jump on you and there isn't a QTE to stop them from doing it. If the shotgun blast doesn't knock them down you're bleeped vs Dogs. If you play right you should never run out of ammo anyways, the large magazine on the Striker just mostly means you never have to reload during an entire engagement unlike other shotguns at times.
Last edited by Kameraden; Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:03pm
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AuraMix♥ Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by D3TH5150:
don't bother the rifle gets more damage with the exclusive. dump upgrades into pistol and rifle the first and shotgun and magnum the second time around. Also use the riot gun over striker as it has more damage. capactiy doesn't matter once you've ran out of the initial 100 rounds you get from the upgrade.
It has a lower Firing Speed withe Power of 30.0, It would be risky to use it when you'll need the rifle for long shots and Regenetors. With the Broken Butterfly like Lumina, would be a better choice to upgrade when fully upgraded the power of it will reach to 50, Which most likely kill any Mini-bosses.
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Mizurazu Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:04pm 
Originally posted by D3TH5150:
don't bother the rifle gets more damage with the exclusive. dump upgrades into pistol and rifle the first and shotgun and magnum the second time around. Also use the riot gun over striker as it has more damage. capactiy doesn't matter once you've ran out of the initial 100 rounds you get from the upgrade.

While it's strong, its fairly slow. I never had problems using it on the Regeneratorsm it just comesin handy if you need to deal damage over distances.
Last edited by Mizurazu; Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:06pm
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Kameraden Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by LauraMix♥Whovian:
Originally posted by D3TH5150:
don't bother the rifle gets more damage with the exclusive. dump upgrades into pistol and rifle the first and shotgun and magnum the second time around. Also use the riot gun over striker as it has more damage. capactiy doesn't matter once you've ran out of the initial 100 rounds you get from the upgrade.
It has a lower Firing Speed withe Power of 30.0, It would be risky to use it when you'll need the rifle for long shots and Regenetors. With the Broken Butterfly like Lumina, would be a better choice to upgrade when fully upgraded the power of it will reach to 50, Which most likely kill any Mini-bosses.
Thing is even on Professional the Killer 7 is more than good enough when fully upgraded. Broken Butterfly is over kill... Hand Cannon is GOD. lol

Killer 7 is cheaper over all because it has no exclusive sadly. Oddly I never understood why the Killer 7 was never given an exclusive, I guess because even without an exclusive it's still good. Just that exclusive on the Butterfly really makes the choice hard to make.
Last edited by Kameraden; Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:07pm
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AuraMix♥ Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by Lumina:
Originally posted by LauraMix♥Whovian:
It has a lower Firing Speed withe Power of 30.0, It would be risky to use it when you'll need the rifle for long shots and Regenetors. With the Broken Butterfly like Lumina, would be a better choice to upgrade when fully upgraded the power of it will reach to 50, Which most likely kill any Mini-bosses.
Thing is even on Professional the Killer 7 is more than good enough when fully upgraded. Broken Butterfly is over kill... Hand Cannon is GOD. lol
Still save you some ammo/health when you are surround by enemies. xD
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Shinuchi Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:08pm 
FYI I have a fully upgraded Red9 (w/Stock), Striker, and Semi-Automatic Rifle. The only thing I have right now that is not upgraded at all is the free Broken Butterfly I got inside the Castle. I have not used the BB until probably the U3 boss fight.
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Kameraden Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by Shinuchi:
FYI I have a fully upgraded Red9 (w/Stock), Striker, and Semi-Automatic Rifle. The only thing I have right now that is not upgraded at all is the free Broken Butterfly I got inside the Castle. I have not used the BB until probably the U3 boss fight.
I use it a lot and just do not reload it, and then use the reload upgrade for free magnum rounds. In general it is about personal preference. As I said do you want Raw Firepower, or Superior Handling. Superior as in faster reload, higher rate of fire, larger magazine. Broken Butterfly is slow about everything, but it's damage per round is high.

In general if you can afford to upgrade it go a head. As I said earlier a stock Killer 7 is better than a stock unupgraded Broken Butterfly, adn with it's superior reload/handling, ie easier to use, it's a better short term weapon. Being you can get the Broken Butterfly over and over again for free, I often just get the Killer 7 because in the short term it is better if you don't plan on maxing them upgrade wise the first run through the game.

I almost always sell my magnums after I beat Krauser anyways. You do not REALLY need them anymore after that but they're still useful I guess.
Last edited by Kameraden; Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:15pm
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Sugoi Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:25pm 
If you can aim, the bolt-action rifle is flat superior to the semi-auto. There are aggressive bosses it isn't good against (U3 & "Right Hand" in particular), but you wouldn't do much better with a semi-auto vs those bosses either.

As for BB vs Killer 7, BB is really just plain better, and free to boot.
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Shinuchi Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:25pm 
I have enough money to upgrade the Broken Butterfly all the way though Killer 7 seems like an affordable option since BB really empties my wallet after being upgraded. Or I can just scrape by without either magnum and get the Handcannon after I beat the game.

So in conclusion I guess I should buy a Killer 7 or just scrape by without a Magnum if it's possible until post-game.
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Sugoi Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:45pm 
Any number of strategies are viable. Just focus on the weapons you enjoy using the most.

There's no question that having a fully upgraded rifle (and again, I'm heavily biased towards the crazy 30 power of the bolt action) can make certain sections vastly easier, though.
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Shinuchi Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:45pm 
Originally posted by Sugoi:
If you can aim, the bolt-action rifle is flat superior to the semi-auto. There are aggressive bosses it isn't good against (U3 & "Right Hand" in particular), but you wouldn't do much better with a semi-auto vs those bosses either.

As for BB vs Killer 7, BB is really just plain better, and free to boot.

I do agree that the Bolt-Action Rifle far surpasses in damage than the Semi-Auto Rifle. Though the Semi-Auto's fast firing-speed helped me in a couple of situations (non-Boss wise). I like the Bolt-Action's reload animation btw xD, was a hard decision to make for me between the Rifles. Also, Broken Butterfly also is definitely better in terms of power vs the Killer 7 but the amount of cash you have to put into upgrades makes me want the Killer 7 as an alternative for a first-time playthrough.

I think I'll scrape by without using any magnums for now till I really need to use them in some part of the game. I already defeated U3 as of now and I am right before the Krauser Boss fight.
Last edited by Shinuchi; Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:46pm
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Shinuchi Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:48pm 
Also, thank you everyone for your responses and suggestions :3
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WC4L420 Mar 16, 2014 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by Lumina:
Originally posted by D3TH5150:
don't bother the rifle gets more damage with the exclusive. dump upgrades into pistol and rifle the first and shotgun and magnum the second time around. Also use the riot gun over striker as it has more damage. capactiy doesn't matter once you've ran out of the initial 100 rounds you get from the upgrade.
Technically the Shotgun is better than the Riot. The only reason the Riot seems like it does more damage is it's more accurate at a distance than the Striker, at close range the Striker is GOD. At medium/long rnage the Shotgun is god with fully upgraded.. Riot is just a stop gap weapon... smart people avoid buying the riot gun and just keep the shotgun until the Striker.

Also the Striker shoots much faster, pump action can get you killed, definitely vs DOGs... between Pumps it's enough time for them to jump on you and there isn't a QTE to stop them from doing it. If the shotgun blast doesn't knock them down you're bleeped vs Dogs. If you play right you should never run out of ammo anyways, the large magazine on the Striker just mostly means you never have to reload during an entire engagement unlike other shotguns at times.

Um no its not the riot is stronger period. Go to google and look up their damage. As for your arguement i can easily kill two dogs before either lunges. In fact cuz the riot gun is so strong you can group and kill in one shot. And i argue that if you really need to use the striker then you really don't have skill. its this simple the riot gun does 10 damage with its exclusive which is more then the starting shotgun, and 2 less then the riot gun, but you loose 4 damage with the striker due to its outrageous sawwed off shotgun effect, so shooting a ganado 4 steps in front of you does around 7-8 dam to him where a riot gun will do 10 until your about 15 steps away. Standard shotgun exclusive lets it 8 dam at any range, but it looses usability since most of your long range shots will be done with a pistol or rifle.
Last edited by WC4L420; Mar 16, 2014 @ 6:09pm
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