Classic vs Modern controls

[Vogelmeister]

So what's the difference between classic and modern controls for keyboard and mouse? I've been switching back and forth but both feel like driving a tractor. Some say modern controls let you strafe sideways by pressing A and D and turn with the mouse, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Am I missing something?

[Bruno]

Originally posted by Vogelmeister:

Some say modern controls let you strafe sideways by pressing A and D and turn with the mouse

Where are people saying that? pfft. There's so much misinformation about this port.

Anyway, Its purpose is to disable negative mouse acceleration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPbqwNwvJEw

[Vogelmeister]

Originally posted by hauu~:

Originally posted by Vogelmeister:

Some say modern controls let you strafe sideways by pressing A and D and turn with the mouse

Where are people saying that? pfft. There's so much misinformation about this port.

Anyway, Its purpose is to disable negative mouse acceleration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPbqwNwvJEw

Yeah, I thought so. What a shame – such a great game and a completely rubbish port.

[AmethystViper]

It's rubbish because it has no strafing when it never had strafing to begin with since the original GameCube version? *facepalm*

[Vogelmeister]

Originally posted by AmethsytViper:

It's rubbish because it has no strafing when it never had strafing to begin with since the original GameCube version? *facepalm*

Well, facepalm away. But tell me, how good is this port on the scale of 1–10, do you think? Keeping in mind that the year is 2016 and it's an "ultimate HD remaster", rather than an actual GameCube game?

[Swaggaccino]

Originally posted by Vogelmeister:

Originally posted by AmethsytViper:

It's rubbish because it has no strafing when it never had strafing to begin with since the original GameCube version? *facepalm*

Well, facepalm away. But tell me, how good is this port on the scale of 1–10, do you think? Keeping in mind that the year is 2016 and it's an "ultimate HD remaster", rather than an actual GameCube game?

Strafing would ruin the pacing. You are suppose to be slower and get overwhelmed with enemies. You are suppose to get hit and feel like you are about to die. That's part of the atmopshere. If they ever do decide to add strafing (which would be stupid), it better be really slow sidesteps like slow backing up. But you don't need it. You can easily avoid enemies if you use the quick 180 turn function (Q). I literally can run past a mob 10x and avoid getting hit 9/10 times.

On a scale of 1-10, the port is about a 7. There are areas with slowdowns, textures aren't really HD especially by 2016 standards, and the KBM/menus are really well integrated into the PC. The game itself is a solid 10/10.

[El Fuerte]

The port is not rubbish because it doesn't feature strafing. This game was designed this way and should remain so.

[Vogelmeister]

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

The port is not rubbish because it doesn't feature strafing. This game was designed this way and should remain so.

Well, fine. It's an amazing quality port then.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by Vogelmeister:

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

The port is not rubbish because it doesn't feature strafing. This game was designed this way and should remain so.

Well, fine. It's an amazing quality port then.

It is, if you are strictly talking about strafing alone. Developers didn't want to add something that would break enemy AI.

[Vogelmeister]

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

Originally posted by Vogelmeister:

Well, fine. It's an amazing quality port then.

It is, if you are strictly talking about strafing alone.

If you dig those controls and can actually enjoy the game on keyboard and mouse, more power to you!
I, however, posted this to get an answer to a simple question – they put in a "modern" control variant in this release, and I was curious to know how is it different from the original.

[El Fuerte]

So you can't enjoy the game because it doesn't have strafing? Well that sucks.

Makes people wonder how did you enjoyed it back in 2005 in the first place. Reason for these replies from some users.

[Vogelmeister]

Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

So you can't enjoy the game because it doesn't have strafing? Well that sucks.

Makes people wonder how did you enjoyed it back in 2005 in the first place. Reason for these replies.

It's not just about strafing. It's about how it feels overall. Controllers are different from mice and keyboards. What works well with analog controls doesn't necessarily work well with digital. I used to play the PS2 version and it was fine. This isn't. Don't take it personally.

[Metalhead1652]

retroactive criticism many years after game is released......that doesn't exactly work

but I do agree, the keyboard and mouse controls are pretty frickin bad

the ps2 controls were arschgrobbler (german word, so I don't get a bunch of hearts!) because I had a bad controller....the keyboard and mouse takes "bad controller" and proceeds to slap me with my own copy of the game!

*random dark souls chump*: git gud you pleb!

wow.....hitting all the bases including elitist anime community...."pleb"

such a frigid word for people that have a terrible background as just "being for kids"

[Vogelmeister]

Originally posted by Kaori Miyazono:

retroactive criticism many years after game is released......that doesn't exactly work

You're right about criticism, but how retroactive is it exactly, if the game is supposed to be an "Ultimate HD remaster"? What's worse – it features a "modern" control scheme in the settings. But I still can't see how it's different from the original one. What does it do apart from fixing mouse acceleration, which is still... Well, not perfect?

[Bruno]

Originally posted by Vogelmeister:

it features a "modern" control scheme

*sigh*
The "modern" option is under "Aiming Mode"[i.imgur.com]. It doesn't mention, AT ALL, "control scheme". I can't see how anyone would be confused by this.

It does what it is supposed to do.

"Ultimate HD remaster" is, obviously, a marketing name. This is a product after all.
Still, being a remaster doesn't imply that the control scheme should be changed as well. As mentioned, it would ruin the pacing.

[Vogelmeister]

Originally posted by hauu~:

Originally posted by Vogelmeister:

it features a "modern" control scheme

*sigh*
The "modern" option is under "Aiming Mode"[i.imgur.com]. It doesn't mention, AT ALL, "control scheme". I can't see how anyone would be confused by this.

Ok, thanks for clearing that out. That's why I asked the question in the first place.

You know, It's surprising how much flack I got for asking it. I'm starting to think that the controls are actually fine and there's something wrong with me for having a bad time with them.
As for the pacing, I think it comes mainly from the inability to run and shoot at the same time. Which is what I actually like about this game. I just think that a so-called remaster (for the PC, no less) could do with some more optimization for mouse and keyboard, something like the RE1 remaster did.

But enough of that. I can hear someone behind the door. ♥♥♥♥, why are there so many of them? And what's with all those pitchforks? Jesus, somebody, call the...