Explain to me why RE5 is less critically acclaimed than RE4 despite...

[BADGIRL17]

...having a more authentic (less nonsense fantasy) setting, same controls and gameplay overall, better graphics?

[Tomberry Blue]

I don't know what bs bootleg RE4 you played but it's not fantasy in any way.

As for RE5 being less popular it mostly has to do with it doing nothing RE4 didn't do better. It's really just the same game but less good.

[BADGIRL17]

It's not fantasy in any way? Sure, breh.

And what did RE4 do better than RE5? They're the same, except for RE5 having co-op mode.

[Tomberry Blue]

Show me what part of RE4 has elves or magic spells.

Well for one thing, RE4 didn't have a really bad tacked on co op that made the game worse if you tried to play it alone. It did all the other things RE5 does first which I admit is a dumb reason for bashing RE5 but lots of people just don't like when sequels are just "more of the same".

RE4 had humour and likeable characters as opposed to Chris Redffield punching giant boulders.

[Sovereign]

I think this explains it pretty well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VxmvKj3SJGw

[Tomberry Blue]

Originally posted by Sovereign:

I think this explains it pretty well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VxmvKj3SJGw

This actually explains my feelings about RE5 better than I could.

[BADGIRL17]

AI partner can sometimes be a problem only on harder difficulties. Having said that, RE4 doesn't have a partner, so that's not something it does better. It just doesn't do it. But at the same time it doesn't have co-op mode, which is essentially the main feature of RE5. Everything else is transferred from RE4.

Inventory is a hindrance, but it's not that big of an issue. With some practice it becomes a non-issue.

I played RE4 on a different platform long time ago, after playing 5 extensively, and I didn't feel it had better gameplay. It felt absolutely the same.

I read many times how RE5 discarded survival for more action. It's outright lie. RE4 just as action-heavy as RE5. No more, no less. It's not by any measure survival. You brute force your way through the entire thing. It's wasn't RE5, that departed from the game's roots, it was RE4. RE5 just took RE4 and added co-op.

Also, writing in RE4 is just as woodden and generic as in RE5.

[Tomberry Blue]

Originally posted by bntn:

AI partner can sometimes be a problem only on harder difficulties. Having said that, RE4 doesn't have a partner, so that's not something it does better. It just doesn't do it. But at the same time it doesn't have co-op mode, which is essentially the main feature of RE5. Everything else is transferred from RE4.

Inventory is a hindrance, but it's not that big of an issue. With some practice it becomes a non-issue.

I played RE4 on a different platform long time ago, after playing 5 extensively, and I didn't feel it had better gameplay. It felt absolutely the same.

I read many times how RE5 discarded survival for more action. It's outright lie. RE4 just as action-heavy as RE5. No more, no less. It's not by any measure survival. You brute force your way through the entire thing. It's wasn't RE5, that departed from the game's roots, it was RE4. RE5 just took RE4 and added co-op.

RE4 did have Ashley. Which wasn't super helpful as a partner but at least she didn't work against the player. And being forced to play with another person for the game to even work right isn't exactly a good thing.

I do agree with your point about "survival". RE's never really been about that past the first 2 games and even those didn't have a big focus on it. Also, yes, RE4 and 5 gameplay wise are pretty much exactly the same. So you're right on this too.

[BADGIRL17]

Yet RE5 for some reason has a reputation of the game that ruined the series.

[Sovereign]

Originally posted by bntn:

Yet RE5 for some reason has a reputation of the game that ruined the series.

It didn't "ruin" the series, it's an alright shooter that even got solid reviews at launch, but as a sequel to RE4 it was simply a massive let down.

[Tomberry Blue]

Originally posted by bntn:

Yet RE5 for some reason has a reputation of the game that ruined the series.

I think RE5's biggest problem is that it was never going to live up to the hype after people went "omg RE4 best game ever forever". And then it turned out it really wasn't nearly as good as it's predecessor.

RE6 is the one that everyone really hates though and the one a lot of people said was the "death" of the series. That and the mediocre stuff on the side. TBF I kind of like RE6 but in a "so bad it's good" kind of way. It's a hilarious game.

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by The dood:

lots of people just don't like when sequels are just "more of the same".

Then those people shouldn't be buying sequels, since being "more of the same" is kind of the point of sequels.

Originally posted by BADGIRL17:

Yet RE5 for some reason has a reputation of the game that ruined the series.

Reputation amongst whom? Whoever blames a single RE game for "ruining" the franchise is a blind hater. There will be allways fans with double standards who will be quick to point all the wrong things in one game but will conveniently turn a blind eye on other games that make the same mistakes.

The franchise's identity and the concept of "Survival Horrror" were killed by a sum of awful ideas and game design choices, some of which were introduced in 4, some in 5, and some in 6. Some of those ideas have been praised first, when they were "something new", only to be pointed out as mistakes as years went by.

[the2ndSign]

I've seen plenty of people with the opinion that RE4 ruined the series, not 5.

[BADGIRL17]

In other words, either RE5 is underrated or RE4 is overrated.

I personally like RE4 and RE5 (and RE7 for that matter) as games (and I hate RE6), but I don't like them as RE games. For me RE is what the series was prior to RE4. So yeah, I agree that RE4 ruined the series. But it's still a good game on it's own.

[BADGIRL17]

Technically any RE game that has RE in it's title is a true RE game.

[El Fuerte]

My opinion? Shinji Mikami.

RE5 may have sold more and feature the same gameplay, but it doesn't have the same soul. Sounds like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, right? I know. But trust me, i'm gonna elaborate on it if you're interested.

There is a forced AI partner that wasn't in RE4 or the trailer. The pacing is not as good. It takes things way too serious. There is barely any humor or sense of mistery in the script, its just angry Chris and Sheeva tactically pointing their guns at every corner in every single cutscene. Watch one of those "RE5 movie" videos on youtube and tell me its not true.

Now ask yourselves: Why is RE6 also less critically acclaimed even with better graphics, same gameplay and even classic zombies in a wasted city? The answer is pretty much the same. No soul whatsoever. Copying the gameplay alone is not enough to replicate a masterpiece. There are other things involved. Script, atmosphere, art design, subtle pacing solutions which can only be identified by those who are sensitive to it.

Oops, did i just said "Masterpiece"? NO WAY!

Yes you've heard that right. Just in case it has triggered you for some reason. RE4 is FAR from the best Resident Evil title, that is true. There are survival horror purposes involved in this franchise. But liking it or not, you can't deny that it is widely considered by critics one of the overall best video game products of all time for the very things i've mentioned before. I'll repeat: Not the best RE title, but overall one of the best games of all time. Right up there with beasts like Half Life and Ocarina of Time. And with good reason. Something that its clone sequels never even dreamed of. Why is that? Again: no soul. Just the same gameplay.

As much of an a$$hole that Shinji Mikami is in real life, you have to understand that the man has an unique talent that cannot just be copied like that. We are talking about the man who managed to remake a phenomenon into something so good that it puts the original to the test. Widely considered an impossible task, as you can barely mention remake products in the history of cinema and videogames that can come close to surpass its original source. So yeah,as i quote the creator of the Souls series Hidetaka Myiazaki in an interview about Dark Souls 3:

Dark Souls 2 lacks "Myazaki's Touch"? What's that? I never heard about that. But as long as I am listed as the director on the end credits of a game, there’s a certain level of quality that game needs to meet. I can guarantee you that it will reach that.

-Hidetaka Miyazaki

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-interview-this-is-a-turning-point-for/1100-6429569/

So think about that. Good day to you all RE fans!