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Hoppers output at 50 items a min (per side) and a conveyor can handle 100 items a min.
(On standard settings).
So that's double, I wouldn't call that "barely".
The Motorised Conveyor can also output faster then 100 items a min as well. I think its around 150 items a min (someone feel free to give exact number if I am wrong) so it can work for pipes.
Obviously you'll get better movement with matter movers but that takes a LOT more power to get that kind of speed than the motorised conveyor uses.
Also the hopper speed is per side so you can run multiple conveyors into and out of hoppers to play with the throughput. And the hopper itself doesn't necessarily limit the speed as the belt, matter mover, etc. can dicatate the speed of stuff going into or out of a hopper..
Feel free to experiment - I learned a whole lot more just playing with stuff than anything else :)
One thing I found was that the motor speed and such on the ore extractors had a LOT to do with how fast stuff was moving to the smelters - until you get the hopper on the extractor staying full then your logistics is NOT slowing you down but the motor speed on the extractor is. Evemtually at the higher tier motors THEN your belt speed will start coming into play.
With just two extractors one of which has only the basic motor upgrade in it, and a joint conveyor line feeding one hopper that then feeds another that the smelter with a mk 1 forced induction pulls from, the first hopper stays full and the second slowly empties. I got a second smelter now and am trying to figure out how to keep them fed.
Yeah depending on the settings things vary quite a bit. On the more scarce settings it takes so much ore to get an ingot I have to really push the input to the smelters and haven't ever run into a problem emptying them :)
On the other hand rush mode everything is fast.......I guess that's why it's called that..............It can be fun at times though as another benefit is really large veins of ore that are easy to find..