Problems with VIP Mission in the company

[TopperHarley]

Why is it that I can easily complete transport flights with the 175, but when I do a VIP flight with the same machine it is impossible to land the plane safely. I tried 5 times today and it crashed on landing every time. I arrive at a 45° angle even though there is only a 20 knot crosswind. If I get it down, the propeller immediately drills into the ground.

Unfortunately, here you are never sure whether it is a bug or whether you are too stupid for it. I then fly a transport flight to be able to repair the other plane and then I try the VIP missions again. The same thing happens here every time.

On the other hand, if I fly VIP missions as an employee, everything goes quite normally. And the landings are mostly buttery


Does anyone have the same or any tips?

[ChaosDad]

People will say pay attention to the weather before you take the mission, but there's no weather data in the mission brief or planning. Just have to roll with it.

[TopperHarley]

t's not the weather. The weather is the same as in the other missions I flew there, there were between 20 and 27 knots of wind. That's not normally a problem.

[NunSuperior]

You mean like this? (NSFW language)
https://youtube.com/shorts/rhZMmyoOLBk

[TopperHarley]

No, it doesn't have anything to do with my description.

I have now crashed 6 planes into the ground while landing. But only in VIP missions of your own company. As if I had never managed a landing before. IF I fly sightseeing tours. Parachute. Transport etc. Everything landing was great and like butter. As soon as I am in VIP mission, the plane is totaled. Am I too stupid for this? Then ok, but somehow I'm wondering why it works without problems in the other missions, but not there. What surprises me is that no one else seems to have this problem.

[pudel]

Sounds to me like your VIP plane seems to be damaged somehow and causing you this problems during landing.

[TopperHarley]

I have already lost 4 aircraft because the repairs were too expensive and it was cheaper to sell the aircraft and get another one. Also a stupid unbalanced thing. But I've already flown with one that was completely repaired and 100% serviced and crashed on landing.

It's so much harder in VIP than in the other missions. Then I won't continue because apparently I just can't do it.

[CANZUK]

Yes I have noticed this as well. It is impossible to shed speed in the VIP missions. It happened in the small Cessna I bought, closed the throttle for about 50KM away from landing and the plane was still making 150 knots on landing. Same with the jet, impossible to shed speed even if you cut the throttle. Also I landed with the nose at 45 degree from the runway because of the wind. This can only happend with very strong wind which was not the case. Something is wrong.

[OldGuy_UK]

i too had a few probs with vip landings with the 172 but saved for a baron G58 twin prop, and when using full flaps i had no issues and no wind issues, even the nav ap works. maybe try it out

[kimmy]

what i found out was 1.) I nearly have to edit the suggested flight plan prior to accepting a mission, and 2.) learn how to properly use the flaps on anything above the C172, especially the faster jets with no speed brakes.

without doing (1), the descent profiles are often a little too optimistic or you may be able to get down on your target ALT but is too fast and already too close to the runway. Cruise altitudes are also sometimes wrong - C172 @15k+?

[ждун]

when you land cross-wind you must hang your wing into the wind and counter with rudder into opposite direction. Level the wings in the very last moment before touch down. Its very important, you have a wild ride if you miss that.

[TopperHarley]

I've tried the mission for the 10th time now. Now there was 3 knots of wind when taking off, 50 knots of wind during the flight (the autopilot could no longer hold it) and 5 knots of crosswind when landing. But the machine again doesn't slow down on the ground. I touched down at about 60 knots and from then on I was just a passenger. No braking effect, no steering, just hopping, absolutely uncontrollable. I have now listed it as a bug several times, but it is closed after a few minutes. Multiple times. I then wrote a ticket and they said it couldn't be right and that's why it was closed because it was supposed to be spam. They have now topped everything I have experienced with games in the last 40 years ;-)

[Eva]

Originally posted by TopperHarley:

I have already lost 4 aircraft because the repairs were too expensive and it was cheaper to sell the aircraft and get another one. Also a stupid unbalanced thing. But I've already flown with one that was completely repaired and 100% serviced and crashed on landing.

It's so much harder in VIP than in the other missions. Then I won't continue because apparently I just can't do it.

You are aware that the overall categories with their repair costs can be drilled down into many individual components. Those component repair costs are likely to be MUCH cheaper.

[TopperHarley]

Yes, that is known. But if the repair costs plus what you get when you sell it are far higher than the purchase price of a machine, then it doesn't make much sense. I would have had to invest 175,000, sell the plane, buy the others and repair everything was simply the cheaper option. Of course there has to be a good airplane in there, so I guess I was lucky

[TargetLost]

Are you sure your Controller Setup is ok? For some reason sometimes new planes get the default config instead the one I created.

I have flown mostly VIP Charter in Cessna 172 and I figured that the best paied often want you to land on a narrow strip with trees left and right and heavy cross wind.

I don't reall yhave a speed problem because I alway scheck the wind before with the GPS Speed vs IAS or True Airspeed higher up and very often also check the windsock.
Many mission have you land on the wrong way. No idea why.

Anyway on this narrow strips I also have observed very unpleasant Plane behaviour like tendency to kip on the nose..much like wind from behind want to blow you over.
I learnt not to use the break at once but first to overcome this strange instability. If you break it will flip. And also without break you sometimes have to steer correctly to counter that flipping. And yeas at least on 2 such landing I rolled all over the grass next to the airstrip. It was impossible to stay on because then the plane had flipped.


No idea if this is real.. could be caused by the trees.
But I know that I simple will not land a Cessna 172 on a narrow striip with trees and 30 knts crosswind anymore. The risk is not work it.

Byway on the grass in this situation the brakes hardly worked this I observed too. I don't know how it is when you brake with high speed on the grass. Possible it breaks a lot less than on the asphalt.

Unbelieveable but I never had a Plane crash in my Career. Imagine I fly with the Base insurance and just risk it. But that is why I inspect the destination Airport closely with the free cam before starting the mission. It is worth it.

p.s. There is this one gold Caravan mission you need to fly for the specialisation (in japan or somewhere) ..that showed a similair extrem wired crosswind landing behaviour.
But yeah I am certainly not used to land in heavy crosswind with small planes.
With the Airliners it is less a problem.