Career Mode generated a perfect Flight Plan

[Jaeger Pilot]

I don't know how it happened, but I was doing a charter flight to somewhere in Switzerland. After I had invited the passengers on board and started the Vision Jet, I checked the navigation screen in the Garmin 3000. And a perfect flight plan was already loaded. It had the correct altitudes and speeds for the waypoints, with a TOD waypoint, and a nice and long approach.

Normally I get no altitudes or speeds, and this weird tight loop that leads into a crosswind approach that barely gives you time to see the runway before you have to land.

So why is it like that?

[Eva]

Don't I wish. I think I have gotten approach mode to work on my AP all of once. I have pretty much given up trying.

Far more typical is my last run where I finally given a descent order into the airport that is way too late even with a rate of descent of 2000 ft/min. I think I was 15 to 20 miles past the airport when I finally reached altitude. And this was with throttle at zero.

[Jaeger Pilot]

Originally posted by Eva:

Don't I wish. I think I have gotten approach mode to work on my AP all of once. I have pretty much given up trying.

Far more typical is my last run where I finally given a descent order into the airport that is way too late even with a rate of descent of 2000 ft/min. I think I was 15 to 20 miles past the airport when I finally reached altitude. And this was with throttle at zero.

Yes, this was the first time I got approach mode to work. But as I was very unfamiliar with that kind of approach, I didn't really know when to start hand flying the plane. Does the autopilot disengage automatically, or will it land the plane?

[Patpat]

I suspect career mode ATC doesn't care that much in fact about how you approach etc as far as you land and the the usual "press enter" to acknowledge msg will go again.

APR mode is working very fine in the simulation, at least with free flight, it is simple you get the ILS freq onto nav and press APR when aligned and in or almost in range of the localizer.

[Jaeger Pilot]

Originally posted by Patpat:

I suspect career mode ATC doesn't care that much in fact about how you approach etc as far as you land and the the usual "press enter" to acknowledge msg will go again.

APR mode is working very fine in the simulation, at least with free flight.

The problem is they keep nagging for you to stay at 20,000 feet even when you are suppose to be landing. And if the airport is IFR only, then you can't just tell them to shut up. You either have to edit the flightplan or hand fly the plane without approach mode since it won't activate when the checkpoint is 20,000 feet in the air.

[Patpat]

Ah yes, stock ATC is pretty broken indeed :(

[Patpat]

Still I think that as long you get to a certain point career mode ATC will wake up and tell you to land or am I wrong ? I mean you can make your own IFR flight plan, put it in FMS or whatever it is called depending on aircraft, then follow it without ATC inputs, until it wakes you up once you reach the famous career final landig or so point ?

[Jaeger Pilot]

Originally posted by Patpat:

Still I think that as long you get to a certain point career mode ATC will wake up and tell you to land or am I wrong ? I mean you can make your own IFR flight plan, put it in FMS or whatever it is called depending on aircraft, then follow it without ATC inputs, until it wakes you up once you reach the famous career final landig or so point ?

I think ATC works if you file a proper flight plan with altitudes and speed plotted into the waypoints. But the defaults almost never do that, and ATC just reads the plan back to you. If you don't have a TOD in your plan, ATC will just tell you to keep going past the airport.

Yes, you can edit your own flight plan, but that takes knowledge, and I didn't know how to do that until recently when I took some time to learn the Garmin 3000. In the Garmin 1000 I still can't do it. Maybe if I did it on the tablet first.

But, apparently, sometimes the game just gives you a perfect flight plan, which is why I was so confused and made this thread.

[Patpat]

You can always use simbrief to generate you IFR flightplan and import it into your career flight. I believe that as long as career ATC gets en ENTER ack the rest is ok :)

[Jaeger Pilot]

Originally posted by Patpat:

You can always use simbrief to generate you IFR flightplan and import it into your career flight. I believe that as long as career ATC gets en ENTER ack the rest is ok :)

Is that a 3rd party thing, or somewhere in the actual software?

[Patpat]

Look at SimBrief Dispatch, it is free, I use it a lot.

[Jaeger Pilot]

Originally posted by Patpat:

Look at SimBrief Dispatch, it is free, I use it a lot.

I just thought it was a menu in the software, but I see it's a 3rd party website. I will take a look, thanks.

[Patpat]

SimBrief is a free IFR planning tool, then combined with another free plugin to MSFS24 it can import your flightplan into the sim. If you need help add me and we can chat.

[Eva]

Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:

Originally posted by Eva:

Don't I wish. I think I have gotten approach mode to work on my AP all of once. I have pretty much given up trying.

Far more typical is my last run where I finally given a descent order into the airport that is way too late even with a rate of descent of 2000 ft/min. I think I was 15 to 20 miles past the airport when I finally reached altitude. And this was with throttle at zero.

Yes, this was the first time I got approach mode to work. But as I was very unfamiliar with that kind of approach, I didn't really know when to start hand flying the plane. Does the autopilot disengage automatically, or will it land the plane?

In my one shot at it, I disengaged AP manually when I was almost to the runway. I probably should have disengaged slightly earlier.

[Patpat]

Originally posted by Eva:

Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:

Yes, this was the first time I got approach mode to work. But as I was very unfamiliar with that kind of approach, I didn't really know when to start hand flying the plane. Does the autopilot disengage automatically, or will it land the plane?

In my one shot at it, I disengaged AP manually when I was almost to the runway. I probably should have disengaged slightly earlier.

It has nothing to do with ATC or career mode I think, it has to do with localizer (or well it should even in career mode since avionics are avionics).

For APR mode to work you need:
1. Range: be close enough
2. Angle: be at 45 deg or less I think
3. For glidescope (not localiser) you need to be at the right altitude in order to intercept it, if you are too high you will not get the G/S but you will get the LOC.

[Kriima]

The game is so broken that now we're surprised when something works <3