Problem with helicopter controls on Xbox controller - please help

[eX!LE]

I dont know how to describe it - I´m using the standard controller layout and when I got the helicopter in a forward flying position it flys for around 20 seconds until I really have to pull the analog stick forward cause its somehow fighting me and wants to level out....10 seconds later the helicopter pushes back and levels out on its own

Sry for that beginner question but am I missing something?

[Vrede]

I'm new to flying heli also. But what I do when I already have the stick as much forward as I can but the heli still want's to level out, I lower the collective one notch, and the heli's nose start to lower again. Then I alternate between 1-2 notches of the collective up/down to keep it going forward.
I feel like you almost have to use the collective as much as the cyclic if you want to keep a certain angle.

There's probably some pros over here that can explain it better. Like I said, I'm also a beginner.

[pudel]

Trim is important. If you fly forward (being pitched forward) you want to trim the heli in that way, that you dont have to fight the stick anymore (and basically let the heli fly freehand). If you go for landing again and into hover mode, you want to trim it back (trim reset is the key "O") Its the same in planes btw.

[supergoyo77]

It's difficult. Yesterday I had a lot of trouble getting the hang of the rescue helicopter and even then I still haven't mastered it properly.

[♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀]

The heli mechanics are not accurate at all. Another step back from MSFS 2024. It acts like a flight assist is enabled when its not. no matter what you do in forward flight, the heli auto levels out so you have to keep the stick pressed full forward and fight it, its not realistic at all and it has nothing to do with helicopter trim. Even if you use trim the helicopter forces a level flight. I have been flying helis in FSX, DCS, and Xplane for years. the helicopter mechanics in this sim are a joke. glad I got a refund.

[pudel]

Publicado originalmente por ♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀:

it has nothing to do with helicopter trim. Even if you use trim the helicopter forces a level flight. I have been flying helis in FSX, DCS, and Xplane for years. the helicopter mechanics in this sim are a joke. glad I got a refund.

Come on dude....I did already a few missions on the heli. Just trim the helicopter and that thing flys on his own. You dont even have to touch the stick anymore.

[♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀]

Publicado originalmente por pudel:

Publicado originalmente por ♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀:

it has nothing to do with helicopter trim. Even if you use trim the helicopter forces a level flight. I have been flying helis in FSX, DCS, and Xplane for years. the helicopter mechanics in this sim are a joke. glad I got a refund.

Come on dude....I did already a few missions on the heli. Just trim the helicopter and that thing flys on his own. You dont even have to touch the stick anymore.

Your argument is invalid because the helicopter should not be fighting the pilot and trying to auto level itself no matter what speed you are going. The trim has jack to do with it.

[supergoyo77]

Publicado originalmente por ♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀:

The heli mechanics are not accurate at all. Another step back from MSFS 2024. It acts like a flight assist is enabled when its not. no matter what you do in forward flight, the heli auto levels out so you have to keep the stick pressed full forward and fight it, its not realistic at all and it has nothing to do with helicopter trim. Even if you use trim the helicopter forces a level flight. I have been flying helis in FSX, DCS, and Xplane for years. the helicopter mechanics in this sim are a joke. glad I got a refund.

What are you talking about? I honestly don't care about helicopters, they've never caught my attention, I bought this game for the planes, I'm not going to ask for a refund just for that and because you say so.

[pudel]

Publicado originalmente por ♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀:

Publicado originalmente por pudel:

Come on dude....I did already a few missions on the heli. Just trim the helicopter and that thing flys on his own. You dont even have to touch the stick anymore.

Your argument is invalid because the helicopter should not be fighting the pilot and trying to auto level itself no matter what speed you are going. The trim has jack to do with it.

I wont argue about this one. But if you trim your heli you can fly just fine...thats the point.

[Godzilla ツ]

Publicado originalmente por pudel:

Trim is important. If you fly forward (being pitched forward) you want to trim the heli in that way, that you dont have to fight the stick anymore (and basically let the heli fly freehand). If you go for landing again and into hover mode, you want to trim it back (trim reset is the key "O") Its the same in planes btw.

ahhh that explains allot thank you

[Godzilla ツ]

that said what button on hotas joystick are u guys using for the trim?

[pudel]

Publicado originalmente por Godzilla ツ:

that said what button on hotas joystick are u guys using for the trim?

You actually need four buttons for the trim. Forward/backward and left/right (same as in planes) and maybe a even a fifth one for "reset". I use a POV (d-pad) on my stick for it. Similiar to the one animated on the stick in the heli cockpit.

[Godzilla ツ]

Publicado originalmente por pudel:

Publicado originalmente por Godzilla ツ:

that said what button on hotas joystick are u guys using for the trim?

You actually need four buttons for the trim. Forward/backward and left/right (same as in planes) and maybe a even a fifth one for "reset". I use a POV (d-pad) on my stick for it. Similiar to the one animated on the stick in the heli cockpit.

yes thats why i was asking cause i have a rotational button that is use to trim my planes but that would not map correctly on the heli, but i figure it out no worries

[♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀]

Publicado originalmente por supergoyo77:

Publicado originalmente por ♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀:

The heli mechanics are not accurate at all. Another step back from MSFS 2024. It acts like a flight assist is enabled when its not. no matter what you do in forward flight, the heli auto levels out so you have to keep the stick pressed full forward and fight it, its not realistic at all and it has nothing to do with helicopter trim. Even if you use trim the helicopter forces a level flight. I have been flying helis in FSX, DCS, and Xplane for years. the helicopter mechanics in this sim are a joke. glad I got a refund.

What are you talking about? I honestly don't care about helicopters, they've never caught my attention, I bought this game for the planes, I'm not going to ask for a refund just for that and because you say so.

Regardless the flight model needs to be fixed by the developer because helicopters do not naturally fight the pilots input and auto level the helicopter. You do not use trim to fix a bad mechanic in the code.

[pudel]

Publicado originalmente por Godzilla ツ:

Publicado originalmente por pudel:

You actually need four buttons for the trim. Forward/backward and left/right (same as in planes) and maybe a even a fifth one for "reset". I use a POV (d-pad) on my stick for it. Similiar to the one animated on the stick in the heli cockpit.

yes thats why i was asking cause i have a rotational button that is use to trim my planes but that would not map correctly on the heli, but i figure it out no worries

here is a pic of my trim mapping: https://i.imgur.com/ou30D03.jpeg

[Godzilla ツ]

ok now it's fun flying the heli! really got the hang of it ^^