A deer and one shot...

[peaty29]

Here is the scenario:

It is 18:55 and the sun will set soon. You see the biggest trophy deer to ever walk the planet about 100 m away. You have access to any weapon in the game and scope or sight, but you have never used any of them. You reach into your inventory and you pull out a....

[Hylie Pistof]

peaty29 eredeti hozzászólása:

During my last couple of hunts I have been carrying the 300 in the 1 slot and the bow in the 2 slot. I have been using the bow as my "Doe Rifle" to eliminate the doe/females that get lured in. I use the 300 for the males.

if you have a carry capacity of 20, you can take another light weight weapon and more with you.
dont have to slot it, you can switch on the hunt according to situation. it is after all not a reaction shooter, so youll have time enough if you are aware of your surrounding ;)

but sure, the 243 and the bow is fine if you like that. id take the .243, .17 and a 44 or a bow for the hogs ;) but thats just me XD

BlackMaple21 eredeti hozzászólása:

i will go for the 45-70 no doumbt:)

will not work on loggers since there is only the hogs that you can shoot with that ammunition (the deciding factor for ethical/permitted kills in this game)

OldMtnMan eredeti hozzászólása:

Peaty.........I never kill does. The challenge is to get the bucks without killing the does and always do it with a gun. You're killing does who may have fawns for a foolish reason.

Being a good hunter is more than killing everything. Do you want to be a good skilled hunter, or just get a good score for some lame mission?

You can make Classic a simulation or an arcade game. What do you chose?

that is all true and right, but in the end its still *just* a game ;)
i do shoot does for missions and to levelup weapons - gets realy grindy in the end ^^ and you want to have a steady aim in early stages of the game.
any permitted hit will level you up and with at least lv10 youll notice a huge difference - especialy for distance shots.
after that you can do roleplay as you wish, sadly you are still *just* playing a game ;) and bound to those programmed mechanics ^^

good hunting

[Pete Gaimari]

There is a difference between a simulation and a game. Both can be done with Classic but you need the patience and focus to make it a sim.

If you keep telling yourself it's a just a game. That's what it will be for you. There are two choices.

[Hylie Pistof]

there is no simulation in gaming, other then maybe based on physics, like racing games.

you cannot make a map that renders far enough for any real life rifle performance - they all can shoot much farther then any game can display ^^
military rifles like the mosin, 303 enfield or kar98 where used in WW2 at 500m ideal distance without scopes.
modern rifles perform even better - in this game, render distance was increased over time to.... 320m ^^

there is no AI that can simulate an animal brain, and that is the most important thing in these kind of games...
you have the impression that the animal has a behaviour, but its just code, preprogrammed and at best with an rng element if to spook or what path to take.

there is also barly any realistic impact of weather and the basic wind direction is always the same.

this IS a game, but a realy great one - how easy it is to get just a small thing wrong and spoil the whole experience can be seen with CotW and WotH ;)

if you play this like a simulator it is great, its a kind of roleplay - a nearly forgotten way of playing games in times of competition and winning is all XD

but you are fooling yourself if you belive this is more then just code ;) its a great game and one of my favorits, but still - its a game ^^
i cant eat my prey, i and use the hide, or sheds... i can just confirm a kill with my huntermate.
it will also do nothing to free the outback or piccabeen from the invasive species ;) next day they are all back again XD

keep enjoying however you like ;) dont take all to serious ^^

[Pete Gaimari]

I don't want to argue about it because i'm content in what i'm doing. I could as an example in the long shots. I don't take them in real and Classic hunting. So, I can simulate my style of hunting. Long shots are just shooting skills. Hunting skills are sneaking in close.

I could dispute all your points but you seem to want to call it a game and I won't bother. I will say once you accept Classic as a game. That's what it will be for you.

[peaty29]

OldMtnMan eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't want to argue about it because i'm content in what i'm doing. I could as an example in the long shots. I don't take them in real and Classic hunting. So, I can simulate my style of hunting. Long shots are just shooting skills. Hunting skills are sneaking in close.

I could dispute all your points but you seem to want to call it a game and I won't bother. I will say once you accept Classic as a game. That's what it will be for you.

I like your philosophy. When you play do you shoot only one deer and call it a day? Not trying to troll, just curious how you view the game in that regard?

[peaty29]

OldMtnMan eredeti hozzászólása:

The 30-30 is not a long range weapon. I hunted with one for almost 20 years but never took a shot over 100yds. I'd do the same thing in game if I was you.

I'm beginning to enjoy the 30-30. I will hunt with one for the first time IRL this fall. In game it works well with my stalk and lure style.

[Pete Gaimari]

peaty29 eredeti hozzászólása:

OldMtnMan eredeti hozzászólása:

The 30-30 is not a long range weapon. I hunted with one for almost 20 years but never took a shot over 100yds. I'd do the same thing in game if I was you.

I'm beginning to enjoy the 30-30. I will hunt with one for the first time IRL this fall. In game it works well with my stalk and lure style.

Good luck with you real 30-30 hunt. Work on you skills of sneaking in close for a rewarding challenge.

As for do I hunt for one animal in a day in Classic? If i'm not in a comp and just hunting for myself. I do exactly that. I make the kill and then walk back to my cabin with the thought of hauling the meat home.

If i'm in a comp i'll still just make one kill at a time and then move on with the thought of a new hunt starting.

In my state and unit I could only get a tag for one buck muley and one bull elk. Blasting every animal in sight is strictly an arcade gaming thing. I have too much respect for the animals to do that. Even in a game.

[Pete Gaimari]

Anar Kay eredeti hozzászólása:

there is no simulation in gaming, other then maybe based on physics, like racing games.

I don't agree. I have 15 years in DCS. Digital Combat Simulation.

Real retired fighter pilots agree DCS is accurate down to every detail of flight, cockpit, weapons etc. The list is long.

In auto racing there's more than just the physics. Cars and tracks are all laser scanned. Championships follow the real one. iRacing and ACC. That's why real drivers drive those sims. I've driven both since they were both released.

Sims are where i'm at and i'll hunt Classic as a sim. Read my last post in this thread.

https://forum.thehunter.com/viewtopic.php?t=97173

[peaty29]

OldMtnMan eredeti hozzászólása:

Anar Kay eredeti hozzászólása:

there is no simulation in gaming, other then maybe based on physics, like racing games.

I don't agree. I have 15 years in DCS. Digital Combat Simulation.

Real retired fighter pilots agree DCS is accurate down to every detail of flight, cockpit, weapons etc. The list is long.

In auto racing there's more than just the physics. Cars and tracks are all laser scanned. Championships follow the real one. iRacing and ACC. That's why real drivers drive those sims. I've driven both since they were both released.

Sims are where i'm at and i'll hunt Classic as a sim. Read my last post in this thread.

https://forum.thehunter.com/viewtopic.php?t=97173

You are converting me!!!

So, out of curiosity...

Trapper outfit?

Weapons you pack?

Do you literally just walk around and hope to find an animal because of no callers?

What do you do with tracks? How do you know you are following the same animals?

I'll have more questions for sure.

[Pete Gaimari]

Google Still Hunting. My dad taught me to hunt that way 70 years ago. I liked it so much I stayed with it my whole life. I always wanted to write a book on it but it didn't work out.

Yes, Trapper Outfit. Trapper tents. I use the lever 30-06 which is the Winchester 1895. I carry no other weapon and don't even own any other weapon. It's all I need for muley's and elk.

The goal of Still Hunting is to spot the animal before it sees' me. Sound, scent, and sight are what I have to beat the animal. He has the same senses only his work better than mine.

I really don't suggest you hunt this way without more experience. I love it but I fear you'd end up hating it without someone guiding you. Not in Classic but for real. Just know there's another way to hunt you may do someday. It would be too big of a jump right now. Learn to hunt with other methods first. Even though dad taught me to Still Hunt. I still tried all the other ways to hunt before staying with Still Hunting. Well, except treestands. I never tried hunting in one. It didn't seem like hunting to me, but that's me.

[Pete Gaimari]

Keep in mind peaty that even though I don't call. The animals still call. Instead of calling them to me I sneak into the sound they make. This can be tricky in Classic because sometimes the call they make is hard to follow. I setup my sound system to help me as much as I can. It's much easier in real life.

[Pete Gaimari]

Tracker.............I have you on ignore and have for a long time. However, I can see when you make a post. I have to click on it to read it which I never do. I'm sure your above post is aimed at me and probably challenged me. It will get no answer from me. I'm sure I do have an answer.

You seem to forget I put you on ignore if the above post is to me. This is a reminder. If it isn't to me. Never mind.

[GangStarr]

Carbon .300 all the way, for the skin. :)

[HooCairs 🏹]

peaty29 eredeti hozzászólása:

Right now I have a few options

I have a secret love of the .243. It is reliable and efficient.

The .300 has delivered some impressive long shots, and seems to be the most forgiving with bad shots at any range

The 30-30 has consistently let me down at any range. Body shots at any range are seldom fatal.

The .44 magnum would have a tough time at a range of 100 m

The Snakebite would a waste of an opportunity at that range. A hit would result in a tracking session that extend past 19:00.

A 12 ga shotgun would be similar to the Snakebite


So.... given my options I would go with the 300 simply because it has a more knockdown power and hope for a good shot.

You would need the .300, and you would have to make the perfect shot. 18:55 would mean you really only have 2 real minutes to shoot and collect.

The .30-30 is among the worst rifles in the game. It is too week for its list of permitted species.

Real life hunting experience with weapon performance helps you pretty much nothing in the game.

Check weapon performance here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2947885579

[Pete Gaimari]

I complained about the weakness of the 30-30 in game but it did no good.